Fitting rear wheel on ninja, quick help needed please!!!

[superstacker]

Im in a bind on what should be a simple thing to do...

Fitting the rear wheel on my ZX6-R J1 the axle goes through a loop at the bottom of the caliper bracket and theres a block inside the swingarm that holds tha caliper in position i assume.

When i tighten the wheel the disk is grinding against the caliper...thats not natural but i've got no clue why its doing it or if im not doing it right...

help me please im supposed to be riding back to work tonight!!!

[SDM]

Im in a bind on what should be a simple thing to do...

Fitting the rear wheel on my ZX6-R J1 the axle goes through a loop at the bottom of the caliper bracket and theres a block inside the swingarm that holds tha caliper in position i assume.

When i tighten the wheel the disk is grinding against the caliper...thats not natural but i've got no clue why its doing it or if im not doing it right...

help me please im supposed to be riding back to work tonight!!!

Is the spacer in the right place..................?

[superstacker]

dont know..

sounds like the spacer is in the wrong place & I thnk so to, but even the manual isnt helpfull in the order they go back in.

The caliper bracket isnt sitting flush with the block inside the swingarm...

[SDM]

Take the axle out and put the spacer on the other side, see if that makes any difference..................

off now to watch the football................... be back in 50 mins :laugh1

[superstacker]

This is getting stupid...its meant to be a two minute job...

Basically i have...

Axle nut---->Washer----->adjusting plate with the notch in the middle----->swingarm--->long spacer to wheel--->wheel---> small spacer that fits in wheel--->caliper mounting bracket---->adjusting plate and then the end of the axle...

does this sound right?

[UKSkidMark]

You sure that's the order it came out? Long spacer on the left?

If it's grinding, it could also just be that the rear pad isn't retracting fully into the caliper.

[superstacker]

I cant remember the order they came out, lesson to be learned i think...its not sitting flush so its grinding on part of the caliper not the pads...

[bayonet]

Check the caliper holder on the swingarm hasn't got a notch. You may have to slide the caliper along it rather than just pushing it on sideways. Look for marks inside the wheel which may show which side the spacer went (shiny bits that match the size of the end of the spacer). I'm supripsed you have two spacers on the same side, but then I'm out of touch with modern bikes, are you sure one doesn't sit on the other side of the wheel?

Lastly, when you get it back together properly, either make a note of the correct side for the spacer, or scratch a letter R or L on it based on sitting on the bike facing forward.

[superstacker]

The only thing i can think from looking at it, is that if there is a spacer between the caliper mounting bracket and the swingarm that ive lost?

[bayonet]

Photos??

[SDM]

The only thing i can think from looking at it, is that if there is a spacer between the caliper mounting bracket and the swingarm that ive lost?

You should have a spacer either side of the wheel, they should push into the wheel, the calliper should run free along the swinging arm, the 2 spacers might be a different size to each other, if so you might need to find out which side they belong...........!

I would have though that the axle goes through the right side of the swinging arm, then through the calliper, then the spacer, then the wheel, then the spacer, the out the other side of the swinging arm

I Think...................

[UKSkidMark]

I've got the G1, and the larger diameter spacer goes on the sprocket side of the wheel.

So left to right from the rear of the bike....

castle nut-washer-adjuster indicator-swing arm-large diameter spacer-wheel-small diameter spacer-brake caliper mount-swing arm-adjuster indicator-washer-axle head

[superstacker]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/essexbikers/Diagram.jpg

[superstacker]

so when the wheel tightens it pulls the caliper bracket away from mounting block

[bayonet]

http://www.bikebandit.com/assets/schematics/Kawasaki/KA-0705-00497.gif
Is this your wheel, what year is your bike if it isn't?

[UKSkidMark]

http://www.skidmark.net/images/img086.jpg

[bayonet]

http://www.bikebandit.com/assets/schematics/Kawasaki/KA0107121055.gif

[superstacker]

Pictures:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/essexbikers/24022008181.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/essexbikers/24022008180.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/essexbikers/24022008179.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/essexbikers/24022008182.jpg

[superstacker]

The top one is where its rubbing on the disk!

[bayonet]

The top one is where its rubbing on the disk!What year is it?

[superstacker]

2000 j1

[bayonet]

http://www.bikebandit.com/assets/schematics/Kawasaki/2000ZX600J1US_F2240.gif
This should be the right one then. You haven't had the sprocket out and not pushed it all the way back inhave you?

[bayonet]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/essexbikers/24022008182.jpg
I'm not sure what I'm looking at here, but if it's the swing arm slider for the caliper then it's not on it properly.

[superstacker]

i was looking at those earlier, i think im gonna have to look at another ninja ..pain in the ass its sunday

[superstacker]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/essexbikers/24022008182.jpg
I'm not sure what I'm looking at here, but if it's the swing arm slider for the caliper then it's not on it properly.

Exactly, i think thats the problem when the wheel tightens it pulls away, but there isnt a notch or anything that holds it there...

[bayonet]

I think your idea about looking at another ZX6 is the best thing.

[UKSkidMark]

Should be (from memory) a groove that the caliper mount sits in.
Also it wouldn't hurt to clean up the caliper glides. It's possibly it's 'sticking' on there, but less likely.

[SDM]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/essexbikers/24022008182.jpg


Might be a silly question............but wheres is the brake pad..............???

I cant see one..................

[superstacker]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/essexbikers/24022008181.jpg

Thats where its rubbing.

[kasandrich]

You haven't managed to fit the caliper behind one of the pads instead of between them have you?

[STEALTH52]

Thats what i just thought.....Surely the disc isn't between the pad...

[DJMCJERICO]

Like this............






http://www.techgadgetforums.com/files/new_kawasaki_2.jpg

[RaceMeNSee]

no no no thats my bike silly!lol. did you get it sorted in the end?

[stu600cc]

You havent put the disc in between the pads and the spacers go either side of the wheel inside the brake mount

[STEALTH52]

You havent put the disc in between the pads and the spacers go either side of the wheel inside the brake mount

There you go! Me & Kas were right....Reckon Stu should know a bit about Ninja's!

[Ride-or-die]

There you go! Me & Kas were right....Reckon Stu should know a bit about Ninja's!


why cos he is always putting them back together after his track day antics lol

[superstacker]

The disk is between the pads...

unless the spacers are the wrong way round?

[STEALTH52]

The disk is between the pads...

unless the spacers are the wrong way round?

You sure??? Dont look like it fom the pic...You have the diagrams on the thread, you sure you haven't lost anything??

[superstacker]

bear in mind im not with the bike at the moment...

[kasandrich]

I can only see one pad in this picture, the copper coloured bit is the pad isn't it? Surely there should be two of those? and the black bit is the caliper mount?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/essexbikers/24022008181.jpg

[SDM]

In that picture.............you can see the outside pad the other pad should be inside the cailiper, but is the pad there? or has it not come out far enough? and the disc is rubbing against the cailiper body?

[UKSkidMark]

On the rear pads on the ZX-6R the outer pad rides on the runner as you can see from the pic, but the inner pad is just held internally by springs at the bottom and the pin (92143) :)


http://www.skidmark.net/images/zx6rearbrake.jpg

[The Guvnor]

The second pad is missing !!!!.....def only one pad there....that can be seen anyway ! And if they are both there you have to have the spacers wrong way round..........the diagram shows it well.....just compare that to what you have.

[stu600cc]

the spindal goes through sits in a recess in the swingarm

Inside the swingarm goes brake mount then spacer then wheel

Other side it goes spacer then it'll be the swing arm then a washer then the nut then the pin

Sit on a stall behind the bike position wheel with your feet hold it in place with spacers in place

you then have to put the spindal in slightly to the swingarm position the brake mount which should stay in place on its own just dont move the wheel to much

You get a rubber mallet

With ther left hand and your feet move the wheel slightly to line everthing up and use the mallet to knock it through

You wont be able to push it from where you are

Its a bit fiddly but keep calm it does work

Make sure pads are sitting either side of the disc


The brake pads are only held in by a pin get some new ones

Oh and















CLEAN THAT BLOODY BACK END UP WHILE ITS OFF!!!!!!!!!!!

:laugh1:laugh1

[UKSkidMark]

A stool!!!! SIT ON A STOOL?????

Luxury!!!

Some of us sit on the floor with back ache trying to use our toes to lift the wheel high enough off the ground to get the spindle in!! :reading

Hehe - I'll get me coat.


If you want, I can pop down to Tilbury with my bike for comparison.

[stu600cc]

A stool!!!! SIT ON A STOOL?????

Luxury!!!

Some of us sit on the floor with back ache trying to use our toes to lift the wheel high enough off the ground to get the spindle in!! :reading

Hehe - I'll get me coat.


Yeah i done that many a time but ive learnt

I done it so many times

[superstacker]

A stool!!!! SIT ON A STOOL?????

Luxury!!!

Some of us sit on the floor with back ache trying to use our toes to lift the wheel high enough off the ground to get the spindle in!! :reading

Hehe - I'll get me coat.


If you want, I can pop down to Tilbury with my bike for comparison.

Mate...im not in Tilbury at the moment im back at work in Stafford...however my bike is still down there and my mum and dad, or one of them should be in. If you can sort it though PM me, theres a crate of beers in it for ya?

[stu600cc]

you have pm

[bayonet]

You're all putting too much effort into refitting rear wheels. Never mind trying to hold it in position with your feet and struggling to fit the axle at the same time.

Just roll the wheel up onto a brick till it's the right height and position in relation to the brake holder and the swingarm, then wedge another brick behind it to hold it. Then you can carefully push the axle through with one hand whilst holding your cup of tea with the other.

[superstacker]

Well Stu has just been to mine...

It was put back together correctly...but the Caliper bracket or caliper might be bent?

Can they bend because of a flat tyre?

[UKSkidMark]

Would have to be quite some force, that's billet aluminium...

[superstacker]

Flat tyre at about 130?

[UKSkidMark]

Yeah that might do it!! lol

[superstacker]

i didnt want to put that on the original post...but thats what had me stuck on the side of the M25...doing rapid speed and got the wobble, tyre was falt so i took the wheel off to change it....so long as it isnt the subframe!!!!

[stu600cc]

i didnt want to put that on the original post...but thats what had me stuck on the side of the M25...doing rapid speed and got the wobble, tyre was falt so i took the wheel off to change it....so long as it isnt the subframe!!!!

It wouldn't be the sub frame maybe the swing arm though :laugh2

I have one of those too :jumping2

It definatly looks bent ill try the one i have friday

[auroredj]

Stu, you're a superstar :clap:clap:clap see that's what I like about this community, always someone willing to help

[The Guvnor]

but if you had put a flat tyre at 130mph it would have been solved quicker you numpty :laugh1.....glad its sorted:clap

[superstacker]

Well cheers guys anyway..hopefully stu can sort me out on Friday...

[stu600cc]

Stu, you're a superstar :clap:clap:clap see that's what I like about this community, always someone willing to help


Thankyou i aim to please

[superstacker]

Just had a message from Stu...

Caliper mount is definitely bent, which is a relief as i know what to fix on it!

Cheers once again for being patient with me...in future i should try and fix nothing!

[superstacker]

Fixed, Bent caliper mounting bracket!

Ready to roll