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Juvenilerider
24-02-2006, 08:22 AM
So, the 'Tax Man' is a great big stupid dumb arse spasticated ****.

After giving a tax rebate last month, they've decided that they gave me too much, so decided to take it all back, and tax me aswell.

How the **** can they get away with taking £600 from my wage without any kind of ****ing information given?!

Mistress Pussycat
24-02-2006, 08:49 AM
**** babe! ****ing Inland Rev I hate them! THey can never make up there minds!! GGGrrrr!!!
Did they just take it with no warning?! Knobbers!!!

Juvenilerider
24-02-2006, 09:15 AM
No, they didn't say a thing, the big selfish ****stains.

It ain't like i'll get it back next month either, and there's no point asking for an advance on my wages because i'll just be ****ed next month too.

Mistress Pussycat
24-02-2006, 09:25 AM
THat sucks alot dude! What knob jockeys!! I wish there was justice in the world! I can lend ya a score?!! lol!! :cuddle

Tori
24-02-2006, 10:18 AM
The joys of the taxman....he robbed me at the end of January...just like he did the previous july..and the previous jan..and july....groan

RaceMeNSee
24-02-2006, 12:03 PM
my dear lord you actually got Raped!

Lateshift
24-02-2006, 04:16 PM
Actually there is a law that clearly states that you are not allowed to forfeit more than a certain percentage of your wages, which effectively leave you with nothing to get by ;)

First off, who took the money off you, i am assuming its your employer if you are on PAYE in which case you might want to remind them that they have no right to do this because any over payments or under payments from the Inland Revenue are not their concern really and as such its normally dealt with by tax codes ;)

You cannot legally be expected to work for a month and then get your wages deducted to the extent that you cannot get by.

Its no different in the Military, if a soldier owes the Army money then if it is more than 7 days gross pay then it has to be taken monthly, up until a few years ago they would try and take it all in one go, that was stopped when it was taken up with someone from citizens advice after too many soldiers were getting left without money for the month after the Army cocked their wages up ;)

Juvenilerider
24-02-2006, 04:18 PM
I phoned the Tax Office and they said something about it being tax I owed them from working at JJB???

What should the percentage be because i've been taxed 52% of my wage this month

Lateshift
24-02-2006, 04:45 PM
mate if you owe tax they (certainly every time its happened to me) amend your tax code so you pay more each month.

I dont think they are allowed to take 52% of your wages off you in the first instance and i find it daft that your employed who runs the PAYE account allowed it to happen.

I would speak to Tax office again to find out why if they havent taken enough tax in the past, they havent just amended the tax code, its not your fault its happened, its theirs for their oversight to start with (or at least JJB's) but if you have rent relying on your wage then how would you get by if anyone was allowed to just dip in and out of your tax account when they felt like it ;)

Wasnt Harriebird an Accountant, maybe she would know more??




The other, more painful, scenario, is that the Revenue have reviewed your tax for a previous year and have discovered that you are underpaid. Just as you can claim back overpaid tax for up to six years before the current tax year, so the Revenue can claim underpaid tax for the same period. If this is the case, the underpayment is collected by adjusting your tax code. This way you pay it back over the year and not in one lump sum (although underpayments over £2500 are collected through Self Assessment). If this will cause hardship you can ask for it to be collected over two years instead.

Juvenilerider
24-02-2006, 04:47 PM
hmmmm how aggravating, I'll call them again. I think im going to become an Armish person ha

Lateshift
24-02-2006, 04:57 PM
Nothing on the Inland Revenue website suggest that they even take tax back off you in that way Sam, the more i read into it the more it clearly states that underpaid tax is collected through an adjusted tax code the following year to save you paying for it in one go.

On one site it even suggested that if you could prove that you never knew there was a problem with the tax you were paying and if the Tax office hadnt informed you then you could possibly complain about it and have it written off, although the do try to get round that by stating that even on PAYE you should know how much you should be paying, yeah as if :D

DJMCJERICO
24-02-2006, 09:34 PM
Where do you work? Lets have a fcking riottttttttt!!!!!!


(I know i always suggest a riot but one day it will work and we can use fire)


Sucks dude, if you run out of food gimme a shout and i'l post you some beans, inface lets set up a forum box, we'l call it the Armish festival :grin2

WebTone
24-02-2006, 10:24 PM
Well let me assure you that there is no law that states that they can't take more than a certain % and having been to court twice in 6 years over similar issues...if the tax is owed they can take it all. If you can't pay they can take your car, bike and if still not enough your house. Even applies if you have schoolage children. Been there played that game and had very expensive lawyers defending my side.

And \I also know the military side. My first wife was a senior executive officer at MOD Harrogate and I played silly sods myself having been through Cranwell and had to apply the type of rulings to some of my Irks that Lateshift alludes to. Civvy street? It's a whole new world.

Lateshift
25-02-2006, 09:06 AM
Webtone, i took them quotes from a Tax lawyers website that is used for trainee tax consultants, and not the Inland Revenue, however the guidance notes for employees does state that its normally collected through an adjusted tax code, they have done it for me twice and mine was considerably more than £600 ;)

And when i say law, i dont mean an Inland Revenue one, if memory serves there is something in employment law that states that an employer is not allowed to deduct from your wages more than you need to get by for the month, this is specifically why the MOD (and i did check last night) are not allowed to take more than 4 days gross pay per month when cock ups like this happen (instead of the £1200 they took from me in 1994 (when i was only earning £1100 a month at the time :D ).

In this case, if he did not know he hadnt paid enough tax then i would be complaining right to the top to at least have the tax code readjusted for next year.

WebTone
25-02-2006, 09:21 AM
Yes, sorry m8. not a dig. I knew you would have got the info from somewhere reliable as always.:rockon

I perhaps should have put "from BITTER personal and quite recent experience".

Lateshift
25-02-2006, 09:45 AM
I know where you are coming from with the "Bitter experience"

I had my drama with this same thing in both 94 and then as recent as 2000 and trying to argue with them is a nightmare at the best of times, but fortunately they had the MOD on their side to be able to step in and tell me to shut up and get on with it :(