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r6paul
06-04-2006, 06:16 PM
Well thats its folks, hanging up the leathers after silverstone.


Just been cautioned, 3 points and £60 fine for not having restrictors in. Yes its compltly my fault for taking them out but you don't think that your going to get caught.

Am thinking of hanging them up for a year or 2. Turn the R6 in to a track bike and do a track day here and there.

What makes me mad is I have a big crash, break my back and they don't even ask if i have restrictors in, a small dang where no1 else is involed and i get 3 points. Just doesn't make sence.

But thats life. Learn from your mistakes. So whose up for some track days?!?

Spider
06-04-2006, 06:22 PM
dude dont give up! i had 2 accidents while supposidly "restricted" didnt batter an eyelid! and 3 points and £60 fine meh **** it pay it and move on tis the same if u got pulled for small number plate and can etc! RIDING IS A WAY OF LIFE not something u can pickup and put down! if you got 3 points driving a car would you stop driving a car!? no!? so sling ya leathers on stick ya restrictors in and go for a ride! no point in giving up cause what dont kill ya m8 makes u stronger!

Juvenilerider
06-04-2006, 06:26 PM
Ofcourse you got Points and a fine, you owned up to it not being restricted?

I'll eat my hat if you actually ride to and from uni for two months and still give up.

r6paul
06-04-2006, 06:29 PM
dude dont give up! i had 2 accidents while supposidly "restricted" didnt batter an eyelid! and 3 points and £60 fine meh **** it pay it and move on tis the same if u got pulled for small number plate and can etc! RIDING IS A WAY OF LIFE not something u can pickup and put down! if you got 3 points driving a car would you stop driving a car!? no!? so sling ya leathers on stick ya restrictors in and go for a ride! no point in giving up cause what dont kill ya m8 makes u stronger!


True, but i got to think about my future. I'm not staying on at uni, i'm joining the police in a couple of months. I can't afford anymore points or getting into trouble. I don't trust myself. I'll be out one day and get caught for speeding, or for a small plate or loud can, i don't want to risk it, its not worth it.

I'm going to keep the R6, i need it to get to uni for my last term. But after the term i'm going to use it only on the track and getting to the track.

I love biking, and its my world. But its the best thing in my eyes to do atm. Once i'm in the police, i've sorted out my life, my restriction time is up then i'll be back out on the road with you all.

Juvenilerider
06-04-2006, 06:36 PM
If you don't trust yourself or your capabilities mate, you shouldn't be on the road at all.

Lateshift
06-04-2006, 06:37 PM
What have points got to do with joining the Police??

Minor traffic offences etc are not enforceable under the rehabilitation of offenders act (trust me that particular part is my bread and butter!) and from when i first applied (with 6 points) it didnt have any bearing on it, nor did the fact that i have previously been charged and convicted of Common assault (but it was spent under the Rehab act) which was initially ABH after i clouted 4 lads and a Police Officer (who was in plain clothes hence why it was dropped to a lower charge).

Essex Police were more than happy to consider my application, in fact they even asked when i could leave the Army and go for it!

You admitted to not having restrictions fitted, thats the real crime here, so take the 3 points (which do sod all to the insurance) and move on, its a bike, its doesnt have to be something that gets you into trouble ;)

Juvenilerider
06-04-2006, 06:38 PM
Well said, Lateshift.

r6paul
06-04-2006, 06:40 PM
If you don't trust yourself or your capabilities mate, you shouldn't be on the road at all.


Com'on bonnett of all people.

Its not that i don't trust myself on the bike. I just don't want to be open to temptation. Just think all the times down the A130 or whatever. I don't wanna mess my chances up of getting in the police. Its the only job i wanna do which you know. Its hard for you to understand, and i don't expect for you to see it how i see it.

Biking is my life and its bloody hard for me to do, so atleast respect what i'm doing.

AlexG
06-04-2006, 06:44 PM
Just make all the bits that are pointable legal, like the plate + restrictors (don't think you can get points for the loud can), and then be sensible with the throttle. If you do still decide to quit then at least your still doing some track days so its not 100% terrible!

Juvenilerider
06-04-2006, 06:45 PM
Biking is your life, yet you're willing to give it up at the first sign of risk?

Just give it a few days, be happy you ain't lost your licence completely, and have a think about what you're considering doing.

You're considering giving up what you consider your life, for no real reason. Just be careful on the road, don't be tempted, and keep your eyes open for the old bill.

Just think about what you're saying... think about what you're considering giving up just because of a very outside chance of not getting into the forces.

Biker Dude
06-04-2006, 06:48 PM
sam STFU! I think it's a very mature decision to have taken and paul wouldn't have done it with out careful thought and consideration. It's his decision, let him make it.

r6paul
06-04-2006, 06:50 PM
What have points got to do with joining the Police??

Minor traffic offences etc are not enforceable under the rehabilitation of offenders act (trust me that particular part is my bread and butter!) and from when i first applied (with 6 points) it didnt have any bearing on it, nor did the fact that i have previously been charged and convicted of Common assault (but it was spent under the Rehab act) which was initially ABH after i clouted 4 lads and a Police Officer (who was in plain clothes hence why it was dropped to a lower charge).

Essex Police were more than happy to consider my application, in fact they even asked when i could leave the Army and go for it!

You admitted to not having restrictions fitted, thats the real crime here, so take the 3 points (which do sod all to the insurance) and move on, its a bike, its doesnt have to be something that gets you into trouble ;)


Not being funny but its know to be much easier to get into the police if you have been in the army or service like that.

Admitting that i didn't have restrictors in was the best option. He was going to check the bike out anyway. If i had said that it was restricted, when they took it apart i would have been in a hell of alot more trouble and could have gone to court for preverting the course of justice or something along those lines. I couldn't have fitted the restrictors myself before he checked as the bike is in the bike garage and im away in taunton from 2moz morn till wed. So it would have been checked out before i was back.

There are alot of things that could have made this situation better like if i hadn't gone to hospital by ambulance, had the bike restricted, didn't come off etc etc

I just don't want anymore trouble. I'm fed up of sh*t car drivers, being pulled, coming off and whatnot. Don't want any reason to give them to not accept me.

Not going to stop riding, i'll still be on the track. And in a couple of years i'll be back out on the roads. I'll be at the pub next wed, and going to cov for my last term, but then i'm going to give it up for abit. I might not last, but im gonna try.

Lateshift
06-04-2006, 06:54 PM
So if you told the officer that you had bought a restricted bike and they checked then what is the problem?????? ;)

If they then checked it and found that they werent there, they may want to do something about it, but if you told them its not been touched how long are they going to argue about it?? and even if they did what has it cost, 3 points and a £60 slapped wrist ;)

r6paul
06-04-2006, 06:54 PM
Just think about what you're saying... think about what you're considering giving up just because of a very outside chance of not getting into the forces.

Bonnett there are more things to live than bikes. Yes i love biking and i consider it as my freedom and live atm but a job that will carry me through life is far more important. There isn't anyother job that i want to do. I've always wanted to be in the police. If that means giving up biking for a year or so then thats what has to be done. I'm not going to risk the chance. You don't understand what this is doing to me and it is a bloody hard choice but its something that i think, after hard consideration is the best thing

harriebird
06-04-2006, 06:54 PM
i don't really know you at all mate, but it sounds like you've made your mind up and if something is telling you it's just not right at teh moment then i'd listen to yourself.

i gave up climbing not long after my accident, healed, climbed something that was hard for me just to prove i could still do it, and then decided it wasn't for me. like you say, my whole life was climbing, my friends, my boyfriend, my job, everything i'd spent money on.

but after i mashed my ankle up, it just didn't mean the same any more. no-one could understand it except another bloke who'd broken his back but was still totally into it.

each to their own, it's gonna be hard to give up especially if your mates are all into it, but at the end of the day, riding a bike is not something to be doing if you have the slightest shred of doubt as to whether you want to be doing it.....it's all or nothing imho.

BUT you may feel better in a few days, it might just be the head thinking rather than the right wrist....take it easy and don't beat yourself up.

sorry for long post!

Juvenilerider
06-04-2006, 07:22 PM
Ok, i'll stop talking, but you, me and everyone on here knows for a fact you're not going to give it up.

Spider
06-04-2006, 07:55 PM
you do realise that say u get into the police force and then you continue your riding if u get caught doing anything then ull lose your job and worse! and you will have people like us bitching about PO getting away with speeding etc! but if its what you wanna do m8 i support ya and so does the rest of the forum were just making sure you ahve seen all points of view before hand!"

r6paul
06-04-2006, 08:17 PM
you do realise that say u get into the police force and then you continue your riding if u get caught doing anything then ull lose your job and worse! and you will have people like us bitching about PO getting away with speeding etc! but if its what you wanna do m8 i support ya and so does the rest of the forum were just making sure you ahve seen all points of view before hand!"

I do indeed, but i'd rather get in and worry about that than not getting in in the first place. I just want to keep myself as clean as poss before hand.

I don't care what other people will think. If mates decide not to like me because im in the police then they aren't really mates. And if anyone else bitches about me so what? its life.

I have all the points of view in my mind, thats why its so hard to do. I apprechiate people trying to tell me all the sides but i know my options and only i can decide what to do

auroredj
06-04-2006, 08:23 PM
If mates decide not to like me because im in the police then they aren't really mates. And if anyone else bitches about me so what? its life.

Give up or don't give up you've got to follow your heart only you can know how you feel and what to do. If they're true mates anyway they'll still be mates whatever decision you make. (Oh dear give me a bucket to throw up in) Besides all that soppy stuff, you can still be a virtual biker and sign in and chat on the forum whilst you're having let's call it "a year out"

RaceMeNSee
06-04-2006, 09:07 PM
NNNoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo....i wish id have logged in sooner...i coulda saved him!

WebTone
06-04-2006, 09:38 PM
It is your decision M8. Good luck on whatever path you decide to take your life down.

kasandrich
06-04-2006, 09:52 PM
Paul,

I'm really sorry to hear this, you were a bit slow on the uptake, I am not sure that the Police can take your bike to bits, I think they can only ask a dealer to do it.......The dealer is friendly, get the restrictors to them quick, and ask them to bung them in quick!

Remember .....you are innocent until proven guilty, and there is more than one way to restrict a bike, some of them are restricted in the ECU mapping now, which is almost impossible for the Police to prove other than sticking it on a Dyno.

Gazdaman
06-04-2006, 11:19 PM
Oh come on! Don't be a penis. I'm giving you such a slapping when you get here tomorrow.

If you're worried about getting caught with a small plate or a loud can, or speeding. DON'T HAVE A SMALL PLATE, LOUD CAN OR SPEED!!

And why admit it wasn't restricted?! They were never ever in a squillion years going to check that! And who gives a **** about 3 points. J's got 3 points, don't see him giving up biking.

Spider's fallen off and killed more bikes than should be humanly possible, don't see him giving up.

Rich's Andy, similar luck to you, don't see him giving up (If he's given up disregard, haven't seen him around in a while).

I think you're being stupid, and I will make my views known tomorrow.

Gaz

RaceMeNSee
07-04-2006, 06:43 AM
Beat him senseless gaz!

becky
07-04-2006, 09:01 AM
wow its like a ****ing soap drama..............stop being a girl lol......good luck with the police any ways!!!!

Juvenilerider
07-04-2006, 09:03 AM
If you're worried about getting caught with a small plate or a loud can, or speeding. DON'T HAVE A SMALL PLATE, LOUD CAN OR SPEED!!




:clap infact, all of what Gaz said, standing ovation.

RaceMeNSee
07-04-2006, 09:34 AM
:clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap


Beat him down Gaz! :shooter

Jetski
07-04-2006, 10:25 AM
It shows real committment to give up something that you love so much. You must really want to get into the police. It's straight and sensible thinking that's for sure. Yes of course you could totally legalise your bike and it would take just as much effort, if not more, to ride your bike within the speed limits etc etc to ensure you were not pulled or have an accident.

However, at the end of the day, if you have decided to withdraw the temptation alltogether and not ride your bike on the road, then with that kind of attitude, you can only do well in the force. I wish you all the luck in the world.

So, imho, if you're not sure you can stop yourself committing sins of the road, I think you've made a sensible decision. Others can tell you you're being a fool and you just need to be more diciplined with yourself, but only you know if you'd give in to temptation.

Track days, great idea! Do the track days to feed the habit and keep the animal at bay :)

Gazdaman
07-04-2006, 11:13 AM
She's undermining our argument!! Someone distract Mick while we break her keyboard!!

Gaz

Juvenilerider
07-04-2006, 11:18 AM
MICK! Look over there...................... ahhhhh what's that!! QUICK! LOOK!!!!

Biker Dude
07-04-2006, 11:34 AM
She's undermining our argument!! Someone distract Mick while we break her keyboard!!

Gaz

yeah, the only problem with that is that it's also mick's keyboard... so be prepared for beatings Pres Style...:shooter

The Guvnor
07-04-2006, 11:46 AM
It shows real committment to give up something that you love so much. You must really want to get into the police. It's straight and sensible thinking that's for sure. Yes of course you could totally legalise your bike and it would take just as much effort, if not more, to ride your bike within the speed limits etc etc to ensure you were not pulled or have an accident.

However, at the end of the day, if you have decided to withdraw the temptation alltogether and not ride your bike on the road, then with that kind of attitude, you can only do well in the force. I wish you all the luck in the world.

So, imho, if you're not sure you can stop yourself committing sins of the road, I think you've made a sensible decision. Others can tell you you're being a fool and you just need to be more diciplined with yourself, but only you know if you'd give in to temptation.

Track days, great idea! Do the track days to feed the habit and keep the animal at bay :)

Agreed....:clap :clap
Give the guy a break........hes looking after his future. And if he thinks it will be affected due to 20mins of fun then he should be given respect rather than a battering !!!
Its your decision mate........whatever you decide good luck for the future.:clap

Jetski
07-04-2006, 11:51 AM
LMAO!! :D :D

You guys crack me up :D

I promise, I'm not undermining your argument. Poddy was a star the day we rode out to Burnham, showing me, the slower rider, the way :D (at least, I think it was him :) ?? ) and I think it's a real shame he wants to stop road riding, but if he wants it that badly, he's making the only decision he can make to ensure he gets what he wants with minimum risk....

I don't blame you guys for trying to talk him out of it :D

So, keep those feisty fists at bay. The prez don't get his handies out for any ole reason you know! :D Besides, he's not around a pc today, so I can say what I like. I'll just suffer the wrath later :D

If you want a fight, just look at his pint (of coke) and spill his bird. :D

Juvenilerider
07-04-2006, 11:55 AM
I think we're all over looking the bigger picture here, and that's the Paul isn't going to give up riding.

I can pretty much gurantee he wont :D

RaceMeNSee
07-04-2006, 12:23 PM
i seem to remember Stu saying the same thing........................

Juvenilerider
07-04-2006, 12:39 PM
i seem to remember Stu saying the same thing........................


And me, I wanted to give up when the VFR went poop, but no. He won't quit.

Lateshift
07-04-2006, 02:41 PM
The Pres is home dear ;) :D


Oh and you now have no logon on this PC either! :D :D ;)

Jetski
07-04-2006, 02:48 PM
The Pres is home dear ;) :D


Oh and you now have no logon on this PC either! :D :D ;)


shows palm to face of lateshift whilst shifting head sharply left and right

WhatEVER!

:) :love1

SDM
07-04-2006, 02:50 PM
shows palm to face of lateshift whilst shifting head sharply left and right

WhatEVER!

:) :love1

LMFBO

MickyGixer
07-04-2006, 06:46 PM
I totally agree that its a pain in the ass that you've been caught out the way you have. But it is a big decision. Dont hang up those leathers just yet, take a step back for a while and see how you feel once the sun is beating on your face and the smell of WD40 and hot oil comes whaffting your way. There are more options out there....

But I am sure whatever you decision you will make the right one and I am sure there are plenty of Essex bikers who will let you perch on their arse and take you for a bit of fly swotting if your feeling the need for speed....lolol... (and they are right, driving offences - if you have already been selected for Police - are not subject to disciplinary action or an adequate enough reason for legitimate dismissal, unless its Drink drive, careless etc)

Be safe hun...

DoodleBug
07-04-2006, 08:07 PM
.....I am sure there are plenty of Essex bikers who will let you perch on their arse......

I think you might have us confused with www.backgammonplayers.com (http://www.backgammonplayers.com) my luv!:jumping2

p.s. anyone fancy a bit of hard core pillion action?

fall off
07-04-2006, 08:49 PM
shows palm to face of lateshift whilst shifting head sharply left and right

WhatEVER!

:) :love1 you two Crack me up :headbash :boxing:boxing