GSXR-600 1999 No power????

[Shorty]

As many of you are aware, i crashed my gixer a couple of months back. Only recently been able to start repairing the damage. Most probably going to track it so I starting to connect everything (wires etc) that needed to be connected to start the bike. By the way I have somewhat NO MECHANICAL KNOWLEDGE and only some electrical but not auto electrics!

Problem is there is no power what so ever to the bike, when i turn the ignition nothing happens!

If anyone can shed any sort of light on this please do so :(

oh and Jon, Jason and Gaz, if your reading this please get ur asses over to mine and give me a hand :p lol please please please

[Lateshift]

You got any bigger pictures of the bike that you have in the signature?

You turn the key there is nothing whatsoever?

Battery got power in it? ignition wire at clocks been ripped out?

[Shorty]

bare with me ;)

[gixer400]

check your fuses. when i started on my crashed cbr, the same thing happened to me. then i realised i hadent plugged the fusebox in. silly me.

[Lateshift]

bare with me ;)


i aint stripping for no-one, help sort out the bike no problems, tackle out for the fun of it, not a chance ;) :D :D :D :eek:

[Lateshift]

check your fuses. when i started on my crashed cbr, the same thing happened to me. then i realised i hadent plugged the fusebox in. silly me.

Thats what i am thinking, i cant see the fuse box that is normally attached to the air intake/fairings, if the fairings were damaged then its a good possibly that the fuse box took a hammering too ;)

[Shorty]

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[Shorty]

I connected all this up and got nothing!!!! im worried :(

[Lateshift]

Are the clocks damaged? do you get any lights at all? do the headlamps work at all?

Have you checked the fuses in the fuse box that is connected to that air intake?

[Shorty]

I get no power, so no headlights. Doesn't look like the clocks are damaged, either the fuse box, ill try the fuses now!

[Lateshift]

Dont forget to check the main 30amp fuse that is hidden away on the left hand side of the bike on the rear subframe, its pretty much alongside the battery on the left hand side of the bike but hidden under the tail unit.

The fuse is located in the starter relay, you cant miss it, 2 heavy guage wires going into it with what is probably a green blade type fuse in it, this is the main circuit fuse and if its blown you wont get anything at all past there ;)

There is normally a spare one of them hidden underneath the relay unit ;)

[Shorty]

well done Lateshift, Ur right, the 30amp fuse is blown, thankfully i have a new one in my hand ;) just about to try it out now wish me luck :D:D:D:D:D

[Lateshift]

no worries geezer, having a stripped 98 GSXR750 sat outside and a Haynes manual in front of you tends to help ;) :D

[Shorty]

lol well ive got a gsxr 600 '99 and a haynes manual, but i thought it would be quicker to ask the pro's ;);) I have power!!! now I need to find a way of putting the bike into neutral and starting the buggar! LOL the left rearset is broken and i can t change up or down :(

[Lateshift]

take the gear linkage off and use a set of mole grips to rotate it, failing that you could try the linkage off your other bike to see if it fits, all's you are looking for is something to lock onto the gearbox shaft ;)


I think the bus shelter size picture in your siggy needs making a tad smaller though ;) :D :D

[Lateshift]

and peace returns to waltons mountain :D

[Shorty]

sorry having problems resize the pics :( lol ill try a few of them methods out cheers

[Shorty]

okay here we go again :( I have power, I have got it into neutral, But for some reason the bike wont start, It wont even try to start (ive forgot the technical term lol idiot) i have taken the petrol tank off but this would not prevent it from starting, just running. the only other thing i could think of is that i have damaged the left engine casing, doesnt that house the generator? Any thoughts please?

[DoodleBug]

You say it wont start, does it turn over though?

[DoodleBug]

[quote=Shorty.....It wont even try to start (ive forgot the technical term lol idiot)........?[/quote]

I assume this means no. :)

Check the kill switch first ;)

Next, I think is testing your starter solenoid.

(also with the bike in neutral, can you move it forwards, just because you have a neutral light doesnt automatically mean that it out of gear)

[two]

does the starter motor actually turn the engine over...?
is the engine turning over but just not starting..?

kill switch..lol..?

or the side stand switch mine be playing up.... do gixers start in gear with the clutch in...? if so pull the clutch in to see if it makes a difference..?

[Lateshift]

if the engine casing is damaged you dont want to be trying to start it anyway, most generator cases have an oil gallery in them and the last thing you want is it spewing its oil out ;)

does the starter relay (where you changed the fuse) click when you attempt to start it?


In fact having thought about this, the fuel pump that is located inside that fuel tank is powered, if you have disconnected the tank then its not going to pressurise the fuel system i wouldnt have thought, bearing in mind that when you turn the key on it will activate the fuel pump for a couple of seconds to pressurise the fuel (you should hear it as soon as you turn the ignition on).

If it isnt doing that then try it with the fuel tank back on (is there a reason why you took the tank off??).

[Ride-or-die]

exactly the same as mine when i binned my srad, check the side stand switch relay is still there as mine got lost during the crash and without it the bike wont turn over! its a little grey box that plugs in next to ur fuses

[Shorty]

off to check all these things, thank you people

[MICKTLS]

Could poss be the clutch lever cutout switch might be damaged in some way or a broken earth wire

[Shorty]

right people, After a long inspection and a fiddle around I dont have a clue LOL.

nah i mean to say the situation with the bike is, the tanks back on, everything is connected.
However the Alternator i think (thats the thing inside the left engine casing) may be damaged. The casing has a hole in it and all the oil is gone! that would cause it not to turn over yes? Im no expert you see, not even worthy of being called a novice!

[Lateshift]

When you say the oil is gone, do you mean there is no oil left in the engine?

Dont be fooled into thinking that having a hole in that case all the engine will run out, most only drain themselves to a certain level and even that is down to the bike being on the sidestand (it drains to a level and then stops) with it being on the stand you will probably see from the oil level aperture on the other side that its empty, when in actual fact if you stand the bike up straight you will have only lost about a litre ;)

The alternator/generator is housed normally in a big magnetic rotor anyway so shouldnt get damaged unless its really taken a heavy whack (in which case the magnetic rotor could have lost its magnetism anyway, but that is rare).

What you need to do is fault find the starting circuit, does the starter relay click when you try to start the engine, does the neutral light illuminate properly? (is it flickering at all indicating a possible loss in the circuit), have you checked the clutch switch underneath the clutch lever, try holding it in with a screwdriver to make sure its being pushed in properly when you then try to start it.

It may well be that the sidestand relay is actually broken, without testing another or actually testing that one its going to be difficult to say.

Does the fuel circuit work now the tank is back on? can you hear the fuel pump priming the system?


Sadly there isnt going to be a lot you can do at the moment, i wouldnt advise trying to run the engine with a full whole in the generator case, it isnt a pressurised case admittedly but oil will swill around in there so you dont want to end up pumping it out and allowing it to try and sieze itself ;)

[Shorty]

i havent checked the oil level but im pretty sure it wont show anything in the window. I understand what your syaing about the loss of the oil or not completely in this case ;)

yes the starter relay clicks when i try to start the bike, and yes the neutral light illuminates correctly ;) I havent check the clutch switch yet, will do so tomo after work :(

RideorDie is going to come give me some major help, as you know he has the same bike, so we will try his sidestand relay to see if mines ok.

The fuel circuit does work now, and i do hear it priming the system (aha some kinda noise atlast)

Thank you lateshift, once again your advice and knowledge is very helpful and much appreicated :D

I will update tomo with any problems (im sure there will be) or results with the bike. Thank you all for your help/interest in this thread :D

[Ride-or-die]

someone might have asked already but is the battery fully charged? or have u tried to jump it of something with some cables?

[Shorty]

after thinkig very hard about this, and asking around I think it must be something immobilising it, cos otherwise i would get something when i push the start switch! so im going to check everything that would immobilise it, clutch switch, gear, sidestand switch etc.

[Shorty]

Could poss be the clutch lever cutout switch might be damaged in some way or a broken earth wire

It was infact the clucth lever cutout borken! good call, at closer inspection it was out of place therefore not intact. Just bodged it inorder to see if it would star. IT'S ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!! well it wont starg but it tries to!!! not going to start it with the bike its state at the mo. So i have the green light to try and fix it now. Jason, is that ok with you??? lol

Once again thank you all for your help and avdice :D:D:D

[RaceMeNSee]

Good boy Chad....Good boy!


Jason and I wil be round tomorrow to help you fix things matey!