Gixer update

[Shorty]

well, as most of you know im currently getting my gsxr back on the road. but its not going to plan at the mo! I bought USD forks that require me to purchase gsxr 750 yokes, clip ons etc. So I went and bought gsxr 600 forks, thinking they will ofcorse fit no probs. They arrived yesterday and I decided to check them against the bent ones! and just my luck the stanchions are different! Basically my calipers wont fit the stanchions due to an upgrade in the front brakes before i bought the bike. So i looked into what i would have to do and my best option is to change the stanchions over.

so does anyone know ezaclty whats involved in this, whether it's an easy enuf job to do i.e i could do it, or how much and where i could get it done?

i know obviously the oil will need replacing but will the seals?
After all this hassle and money spent, I could have just rebuilt the forks in the first place for cheaper :(
Also i found out that the front axel is bent, so i need a new one before i can ride. Had help form a german engineer and we managed to fit it on anyway so i can move the bike around freely.

[Gazdaman]

Mate, stop assuming things from other bikes will fit. Because most of the time, they won't!!

You could transplant an entire front end with very little difficulty, but that means, forks, yokes, front wheel, calipers, speedo drive etc. That'd be easy.

But to mix and match, just get SRAD forks! You're causing yourself more hastle. Gixxers get updated alot, so therefore, a lot of stuff isn't interchangable.

Get yourself on eBay or to a breakers. You could probably use that front wheel with different forks. But that's more trouble than it's worth really, unless the forks are really cheap.

Gaz

[Shorty]

FFS gaz! i dont like how that comes across to me, and mate I have been buying parts advertised for Srads! IM NOT STUPID THANK YOU! Parts havent matched and its not all my fault, what more can i do rather than to buy parts that are advertised in a way that they say will fit my bike! ggggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrr im not going to bother asking people for help if people jump straight to thinking im buying parts that aint for my bike!

[Shorty]

sorry im very stressed over this

[Gazdaman]

Well let's look at the facts, you bought a random set of USD forks, then a set off a 750, and asked about a case for a k series gixxer.

I don't mean to sound harsh, if that's how you took it, but if you need forks to fit a 600 SRAD, then get some from a 600 SRAD. I'd say the problem's especially bad with gixxers considering they get updated/improved alot.

I guess you weren't to know the parts you bought wouldn't fit. But personally I wouldn't have bought them until I knew they'd fit.

USD forks on an SRAD would be nice, so it may be worth getting a cheap set of yokes/bars etc.

Gaz

EDIT: I posted that before I saw your second post, so it sounds like I went out on the offensive a bit on this one. I don't wanna sound like a cock, and I definately don't wanna make your situation any worse. Just trying to help.

[Shorty]

too late for that, I bought some 600 srad forks but my calipers wont fit! the usd ones werent random, i ask a few people their advice and we thought they would fit! and as for asking about a k series case, thats asking gaz, not actually buying! isnt that how u find out if it would fit??? I know u didint mean to sound harsh, and i think myself that im over reacting but at the moment i am feeling very ****ed off with myself and the people who i bought the parts off of as they assured me they would fit! I am currently at the stage of fiiting the caliperson, repairing my front wheel, gene cover. after that im back on the bike

[Gazdaman]

Your calipers won't fit on a set of SRAD forks?

That sounds a bit weird..

Gaz

[Shorty]

ill go take a few pics and post up, it is wierd fella, lol hence the mood im in

[Gazdaman]

Could you take some of your new SRAD forks compared to the ****ed ones too please. Where did the forks come from? Could be that someone thought they were SRAD forks when they're off something else.

Also failing that, could you use the stantions off them on your bent forks? I assume the lowers on there at the moment are ok?

Gaz

[RaceMeNSee]

Will a big hammer not make them fit?

[DoodleBug]

Gaffa Tape?? :skip

[Shorty]

Could you take some of your new SRAD forks compared to the ****ed ones too please. Where did the forks come from? Could be that someone thought they were SRAD forks when they're off something else.

Also failing that, could you use the stantions off them on your bent forks? I assume the lowers on there at the moment are ok?

Gaz

im pretty sure i said im going to try this out anyway, photos to come

jon, the hammer didnt work, and doodle im not an expect with gaffa tape as some of you fellow bikers are ;)

please excuse the size of the photos

[Shorty]

right this is a pic of where the caliper should fix to, as you can see the holes dont match wot so ever

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m307/citizen_chad/DSC00361.jpg

this is off the bent forks, these are stanchions yes?
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m307/citizen_chad/DSC00363.jpg

[Lateshift]

Them forks are off the K series GSXR 600 (2001) ;)

[Shorty]

after inspecting my ninja J2, i wondered if someone had put k series forks on my gixer. You see my calipers off the gixer would fit onto the forks of my J2, so i presumed that bikes 2000 onwards had simialr forks to a certain point. hard for me to explain but yes lateshift, your right. and thats probably the cause of a few of my problems, but not the usd forks not fitting ofcorse ;)

[Lateshift]

well the logical solution would be to upgrade to the K series calipers seeing as that is the only thing holding you back, however it costs money ;)

as an idea it would be a perfect time to stick some stainless braided lines on too so the front end is all done including the brakes ;)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SUZUKI-GSXR-600-GSXR600-K1-2-3-FRONT-BRAKE-CALIPERS_W0QQitemZ150036757557QQihZ005QQcategoryZ1 0460QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Get it all sorted and get everything else you bought back on Ebay to get some of the money back ;)


But before we go any further with this, you need to make sure that the SRAD wheel and spindle do actually fit the forks and that they dont require spacers or anything bearing in mind that the yoke maybe slightly different on the K series bike, in so much as it could actually hold the calipers slightly closer or slightly further away from the brake rotors ;)

i will see what i can dig up on my travels :)

[Lateshift]

looks to be a bit of a bargain ;)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Suzuki-tokico-GSXR-750-600-K-front-brake-calipers-K1-K3_W0QQitemZ160026545242QQihZ006QQcategoryZ10534QQ ssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

This geezer is selling some SRAD forks, the bottom yoke and the spindle for a ton :)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Suzuki-GSXR-600-SRAD-Front-Forks-Bottom-Yoke_W0QQitemZ200029579005QQihZ010QQcategoryZ10534 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Ride-or-die]

so what lateshift the ones pictured on the bike are K1 forks?

if thats the case chad the breakers we got them from are taking the **** and need to be giving you ur (my) money back.

[Lateshift]

Yes the ones in the first picture (that show the brake rotors) are K series forks stanchions, the K1/K2/K3 600 forks all had a shorter distance between the caliper and fork at the top than at the bottom, as you can see from the SRAD fork, the caliper is slightly different and has different mounts which allow the bracket to be shorter at the bottom and longer at the top (opposite to the K series).

The breakers should have known this though, because the calipers for the 600 SRADs and K series are different.

http://www.mick753.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Kseries.jpg

[Shorty]

WTF! that breakers will get a mouthful now :d lateshift does it again, and again and again. Gaz, this is proof ask jason that It's not my fault im buying parts that turn out to be different :(

[Shorty]

so what do people think i should do? buy k1 calipers?http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SUZUKI-GSXR-600-GSXR600-K1-2-3-FRONT-BRAKE-CALIPERS_W0QQitemZ150036757557QQihZ005QQcategoryZ1 0460QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SUZUKI-GSXR-600-GSXR600-K1-2-3-FRONT-BRAKE-CALIPERS_W0QQitemZ150036757557QQihZ005QQcategoryZ1 0460QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
these ones need pads, cheers lateshift ;)

or shall i send the forks back, get Jasons money back :D and finally buy 600 SRAD forks!

[Lateshift]

have a look at the other Ebay link, they were cheaper and had pads with them, possibly stainless brake lines too going by the picture ;)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Suzuki-tokico-GSXR-750-600-K-front-brake-calipers-K1-K3_W0QQitemZ160026545242QQihZ006QQcategoryZ10534QQ ssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Shorty]

ya but seller is away till 15th of september! thats no good to me really. cheers anyway

[groove]

Isnt it the 22nd of September today?

[robsal0230]

have a look at the other Ebay link, they were cheaper and had pads with them, possibly stainless brake lines too going by the picture ;)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Suzuki-tokico-GSXR-750-600-K-front-brake-calipers-K1-K3_W0QQitemZ160026545242QQihZ006QQcategoryZ10534QQ ssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Bargain and braided hoses! Buy it now and have done with it , then sell all of the other useless s**t on e-bay and get as much money back as poss.
Sorry just my 2pence worth;)

P.S and it is the 22nd today!!

[Ride-or-die]

good point adam, but the main point is that this is a right mess, the seller advertised as a 97 srad so he should offer a refund. nothing as gone right with this rebuild but we will get there in the end

[Shorty]

ya but seller is away till 15th of september! thats no good to me really. cheers anyway

LMAO did i just sya that! omg i cant believe that!

could buy now actually. sorry, see what all this does to a young lad?

[Shorty]

just like to post the link, please check the model of the bike for me and tell me that it says an srad!!

http://www.lincolnshirebikebreakers.co.uk/parts.php?filter_make=3&filter_model=14&filter_year=97&PHPSESSID=29cc06769d1e0143616f699bbc0c0fb9

[Shorty]

them calipers have ended now anyway, but i think id prefer getting forks actually for the srad ;)

[Ride-or-die]

right the bloke has given chad 2 options, get the money back for the forks leaving the problem of then getting some correct ones, or giving him the correct callipers, my only concern with that which appears to be the best option is, would the new calipers fit the brake disks properly?

[Shorty]

what J sed!

[Lateshift]

Have a scout round, and find out if the K series front wheel fits the SRAD series bikes without anything else needed,my feeling is that it will be different slightly (although i am not 100% ).

However isnt the spindly you have bent? (in which case a new one of them is needed first, in that case my money would be sending the forks back and going for the set of forks i put up in the Ebay link that came with the bottom yoke and more importantly the spindle too ).

If i get a chance tomorrow i will have a look round and see what i can find out about the compatibility between these two bikes :)

[Shorty]

ok people, the bloke is generally sorry for the mix up, seems like someone put k1 forks onto the srad he is breaking and he didint realise at the time. He is sending me his calipers for free so i can see if they fit. if not i simply send them with the forks back and get a full refund.

I hear what your saying lateshift, and I think i might have to do that! ill see if the calipers fit and go from there ;) after all k1 forks and calipers are supposed to be uprated from the srad ones :D

[Lateshift]

If he is sending you the calipers i think he is doing you a real favour, fair play to him (it would seem like a genuine enough mistake to make given that people do fit them).

I am keeping my fingers crossed, the parts fiche says that the spindle, the wheel and the brake discs are all different however i suspect that is just down to the catalogue numbers ;)

One to check though, does the mudguard fit? ;)

I assume you have the wheel all fitted to it already in which case we know the spindle fits, just got to hope that the caliper is in the right position now in relation to the brake discs.

Lastly when you tighten everything up on the fork legs, tighten the spindle with the pinch bolts nipped up, and then once the spindle is "torqued up" undo the pinch bolts again and bounce the front suspension so they are sitting centrally, before torqueing them up too, the last thing you want is the forks not sitting perfectly straight on the spindle leading you to believe that the calipers dont fit perfectly ;)

[Shorty]

got ya Sir, many thanks. will let you know ofcourse how it goes. Thats if they go. The bloke sed he has k1 forks on his 750 srad, so how did he make the mistake? anyway yea fingerscrossed everyone please!

[Gazdaman]

Sounds like you've had a touch mate. If the calipers fit, jackpot, if they don't get ya money back.

Either way, when I'm back next I'm all yours for any help you need. J and I have swapped an SRAD engine in a few hours dontchaknow.

Gaz