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MickyGixer
18-03-2007, 06:27 PM
Should anyone be interested:reading . The following link is to the current strategy that was introduced by ACPO on 22nd June 06 and is reviewed in Jan 08. Several counties surrouding London take these guidelines as gospel and the senior officers are enforcing these guidelines more & more. To some of you it may be of interest, to other maybe not. But its there for you to view.:grin2 It was compiled with the assistance of the pro-biking community and major motorcycle publications who ran polls and research during the time it was put together.:reading

http://www.acpo.police.uk/asp/policies/Data/motorcycle_enforcement_strategy_website_22x06x06.d oc

NitroDaze
18-03-2007, 06:46 PM
Nice one. Thanks MickyGixer. About time too. It worrys me slightly that the focus of the paper is on trivial things such as modifications on bikes which have little relevance to biker's saftey. However a good move. It would be nice if road planning and construction factors in biker's safety too. I look forward to the day that l do not have to worry about manhole covers in the wet.

gixer400
18-03-2007, 08:01 PM
QUOTE= A high visible presence and instant intervention is more effective than covert monitoring or remote camera detection and justice by post.

QUOTE= Motorcyclists should be told why they are being stopped and generalised trawling for offences is not recommended.

Two very good quotes taken from it.

I completeley agree with the top one, but he bottom one winds me up.

They do do this, pull you over then check everything wasting time thinking you are trying to hide something. This happened to me once, they found nothing. I was riding safely and my bike was up to scratch, so they gave me some 'advice' to dress more appropriately whilst riding.

In my mind, good boots, good gloves and a 1 piece leather suit do qualify for appropriate attire when on the road. But who knows, maybe i should have worn a pink bikini.

RaceMeNSee
18-03-2007, 08:17 PM
were you screaming whilst on the bike again christobell?

gixer400
18-03-2007, 08:24 PM
were you screaming whilst on the bike again christobell?

Hahaha, me scream?? never!


You shouldnt ride so fast

RaceMeNSee
18-03-2007, 09:04 PM
i was going slow silly

kasandrich
18-03-2007, 09:43 PM
Thanks for that Mickey, its helpfull to see where the goalposts are, and i thank you for posting it up.

.......but what a croc of sh!t, how can the casualty reduction group decide that small number plates and loud exhausts are the biggest problem?


Funny, no mention of car driver education, or awareness campaigns, traffic engineering or road surfaces.

The Guvnor
19-03-2007, 12:33 AM
Funny, no mention of car driver education, or awareness campaigns, traffic engineering or road surfaces.

Doh.........Thats because it is motorcycle strategy inforcement ! Probably one for cars aswell !

Although they have mentioned number plates, there response was good ! They have pushed aside the legal size and are asking for a common sense attitude surely ?

SDM
19-03-2007, 09:45 AM
Thank you micky for that, it was a good read.................I like this quote

· Registration plates, the test to be applied, if not easily legible from 20.5 metres, prosecution and inform DVLA.

Does that mean what I think it means..............:grin2

The size will not be an issue anymore its whether you can read it.

Lateshift
19-03-2007, 09:55 AM
I think the word "Easily" could be called into question here, easily readable by what, by who? :D

In the case of ANPR, it will actually read a small number plate, but your average middle aged donut dunking too fat for the beat jam butty driver might have difficulties on a dark night ;)

:D

kasandrich
19-03-2007, 01:17 PM
20.5 metres just happens to be the distance that you need to be able to read a standard size plate for the driving test, so it stands to reason that if the only eyesight testing done is to read a standard size plate at 20.5m, then the size deemed to be easily readable at 20.5m is a standard size plate.

The Guvnor
19-03-2007, 01:25 PM
20.5 metres just happens to be the distance that you need to be able to read a standard size plate for the driving test, so it stands to reason that if the only eyesight testing done is to read a standard size plate at 20.5m, then the size deemed to be easily readable at 20.5m is a standard size plate.

And you work that one out how ? What does an eysight test have to do with the legalities of the size of number plates ?
At that distance most people could read my plate quite easily, and its tiny !!:grin2
It clearly states that the size is not important, it must be able to be read at that distance. So plate size is not as important as layout and font type. Common sense really !:grin2

kasandrich
19-03-2007, 01:56 PM
I am just trying to point out that it is their interpretation that matters not yours, and I think that will or at least could be their interpretation, angain when they say can be easily read at 20.5m.....by whom? not you, you can't read the plate from the seat, so presumaly someone else and as the only eyesight requirement is to read a std size plate at 20.5 m, then the person who wants or needs to read your plate may only just be able to read a std size plate at 20.5m.

Remember these are the acpo guidelines on how things should be dealt with, you have no legal recourse to defend yourself using these guidelines. you cannot turn up at court and say, this case should be thrown out because I can read my plate at 20.5m!

.....common sense really :grin2

The Guvnor
19-03-2007, 02:37 PM
Erm....

It clearly states that the size is not important, it must be able to be read at that distance. So plate size is not as important as layout and font type. Common sense really !:grin2