Car bomb at Piccadilly...

[DoodleBug]

...possibly another at Hyde Park. Here we go again. Glad I don't work in an Army recruitment Office right now :(

No explosions so far, but of course, there could be more out there just waiting to go off.

[2E]

...possibly another at Hyde Park. Here we go again. Glad I don't work in an Army recruitment Office right now :(

No explosions so far, but of course, there could be more out there just waiting to go off.

Yep was watching on the news about the one outside the Tiger Tiger nightclub, and now theres more... oh joy.. i hope the guys get caught.. I think we all the know the kind of people that are behind this by now..

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1272910,00.html

link to the story.

[Lateshift]

To be honest the threat of them for the Military has always been there, and in reality it isnt that long ago really that the IRA were alive and kicking and doing exactly the same thing in the Capital too (although they were actually targetting Army recruiting offices then too :eek: ).

It doesnt surprise me that we had a visit from the Met this week (accompanied by someone from Special Branch) they were doing the rounds of the Offices to let us know that Recruiting offices are now ranked as number 3 on the terrorist target lists :D

But its July 07/07/07 next Saturday so dont be surprised if things get a bit hectic in London in the run up to that, security is bound to be pretty tight ;)

[Wendy.Tls]

I am just glad that i am not working up there anymore. I used to work in the Haymarket (no.32) which from the pictures i have seen on the news is about 20 yards from where they have pitched the big blue tent that is where the car bomb is supposed to be. i remember when the IRA used to do this ( i was actually stuck in the Haymarket building once when there was a threat from the IRA and i had to sit under a desk away from the windows because they thought it was too risky to send anyone into the building to get me, everyone else was evacuated earlier but they did not come onto our floor as they did not know anyone was in as it was early. However it turned out to be a false alarm, thank god).

i just hope that nothing happens leading up to the 7th July and on it.

[2E]

I am just glad that i am not working up there anymore. I used to work in the Haymarket (no.32) which from the pictures i have seen on the news is about 20 yards from where they have pitched the big blue tent that is where the car bomb is supposed to be. i remember when the IRA used to do this ( i was actually stuck in the Haymarket building once when there was a threat from the IRA and i had to sit under a desk away from the windows because they thought it was too risky to send anyone into the building to get me, everyone else was evacuated earlier but they did not come onto our floor as they did not know anyone was in as it was early. However it turned out to be a false alarm, thank god).

i just hope that nothing happens leading up to the 7th July and on it.

The month where im bound to use trains going into london areas and bombings started....ive never understood the point the terrorists are trying to make... ever?

[Lateshift]

ive never understood the point the terrorists are trying to make... ever?

Errr to disrupt and terrorise ;)

Terrorism is normally the term used to define the actions of those that wish to create an environment where you live in fear :)

The point the terrorist is making is very simple, you arent safe ;)

The only way terrorism can be beaten is by good intelligence and vigilance, we are supposed to carry out OP Wideawake on our office everyday to check for suspect packages, anyone possibly watching our office with the intention of using it as a target is going to see us going about our business with our eyes open so even as a soft target (no armed response) we make it more difficult.

That can be extended to the public too bearing in mind that terrorism might target specific locations or targets, but a bomb is indescriminate in those it chooses to hurt ;)

The problem is that most people in London, keep themselves to themselves, walk around in their own little world and rarely cast an eye to notice anything suspicious purely because they are normally in too much of a rush or are too ignorant to realise the risk :(

[SDM]

To be honest the threat of them for the Military has always been there

Its similar in my line of work............we have to run with the doors locked, if we are stopped by the Police and are not sure if they are who they say they are we have a card we hold up and show them.

I can't remember exactly what is says but the gist of it is they can follow us back to the Depot/Police Station where we can get out of the cab.

When we get back to the Terminal the Vehicle is searched before we go in to load up...............

[SDM]

:confused: Why the hell did they have a go at Glasgow? :confused:

[DoodleBug]

Soft target.

[2E]

:confused: Why the hell did they have a go at Glasgow? :confused:

Because they CAN

Spose its a big area, lots of tourists, disrupts service.. and like doodle said, its a soft target

[SDM]

....................Because they CAN


Thats the type of highly intellectual answer I've come to expect from you........................

[STEALTH52]

Thats the thought of highly intellectual answer I've come to expect from you........................

+1
Tooey, yet another pointless comment, if you haven't got anything productive to say.............dont bother posting fella.

[2E]

Thats the type of highly intellectual answer I've come to expect from you........................

The attack was the work of fanatics targeting innocent people.
This is the first day off for children, and thousands of people and families were leaving Glasgow airport to go for holidays.

So unless you have a better reason...:reading

[monkreadusuk]

Well, fingers crossed it doesn't get any worse. Was at work today and was amazed that people still had to be told to stay with thier bags. I swear it'd be better for the Police to just blow up all unattended bag to teach the public a lesson.

[Lateshift]

I have to say that whilst its a short 1 liner from Tooey, he is pretty much right with his answer though ;)

However airports in the UK are not soft targets by any means ;)

Which is why a crude bomb was being driven 'Baghdad' style through the front doors, very likely because security inside is tight enough to stand a chance (fingers crossed).

A soft target by definition is a target that can be watched and attacked with relative ease with a high probability of success.

Its rare that any terrorist attacks a target on impulse, nearly all attacks take place after a recce, primarily to observe the easiest way in, busiest times, detection systems, security blah blah blah.

Once they are happy with the location they do the planning and then carry the attack out, its often rehearsed aswell (although not where suicide bombers are concerned :D :D ).

Complicated business is terrorism, and even more complicated for the counter terrorist agencies who are often trying to stay one step ahead of the game and often at a moments notice ;)

But going back to Glasgow, picture the scenario,


2 car bombs found and defused in the Capital, the whole country is looking towards London expecting another July 7th, people elsewhere are thinking 'poor sods in London are in for it again' and then a car bomb is driven into Glasgow airport ;)

Now that presents a few problems, it stretches an investigation in two directions now (i.e. different parts of the country), it causes a man power problem as we get moved to the critical alert level (officers are all on over time trying to cover high priority events and targets, imagine the Met having to deal with Wembley due to the Royal presence there ;) ), it creates an air of unease within not just the London public now but the rest of the UK as people finally start to think "christ it isnt just London that can cop for it now" ;)

And without causing a single casualty (apart from one of them) the terrorists responsible for this have terrorised and disrupted our way of life and have us looking over our shoulders,

and all because they can ;)

purely because in this country for too long we have been ignorant to the fact that we are all soft targets ;)

[2E]

I have to say that whilst its a short 1 liner from Tooey, he is pretty much right with his answer though ;)



i think thats the first (and probably last) time ive heard lateshift defend me in something..

Picture moment... ;)


'Baghdad Style' :laugh1

Love it...:grin2

[UKSkidMark]

Probably Glasgow cos it's close to Gordon Brown's seat of Kircaldy and Cowdenbeath.

I work in an office directly over a MOD recruitment centre. We had a suspicious package left opposite it a couple of years back. No-one had the forethought to tell us though, evacuate us or keep us away from the windows!!
Turned out to be a briefcase some 'businessman' had left with his sandwiches in!

[Lateshift]

Ilford by any chance?? :)

[UKSkidMark]

Nah, Chelmsford I'm afraid.
Dad's an instructor at Ilford ATC though.

[SDM]

This is not meant to be racialist in any form and if it causes offence please remove it.

In light of what happened on the 7th July the other year and what people who knew the bombers said like ‘we have known him for years and he was a nice person’ or words to that effect and they were all ‘British’.

Now soon people will treat all Muslims the same. As I am aware there are quite a lot of Muslims in the Armed Forces, Police and the as Members of Parliament, is this not infiltration, they are British but how can we trust these people after 7/7

Sorry if this seems controversial and it offends but it’s what I think on this matter.

[harriebird]

because only a tiny tiny tiny tiny minority believe that the terrorist cause is the way forward! and the majority are fed up with being tarred with the same brush i would imagine!

[DoodleBug]

How many irish police, armed forces personnel, MPs did/do we have etc...