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the captain
31-07-2007, 07:07 PM
These have the right idea!!!


Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.
A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia and her Queen at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his Ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown. Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state, and its laws were made by parliament. "If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you", he said on National Television.
"I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia: one the Australian law and another Islamic law that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then, that's a better option", Costello said.

Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the other country. Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off. Basically people who don't want to be Australians, and who don't want, to live by Australian values and understand them, well then, they can basically clear off", he said.
Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques.
Quote: "IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians."
"However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the 'politically correct' crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others. I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Australia." "However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand." "This idea of Australiabeing a multicultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. And as Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle."
"This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom"
"We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society. Learn the language!"
"Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture."
"We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us."
"If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like "A Fair Go", then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. By all means, keep your culture, but do not force it on others.
"This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom,
'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'."
"If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted."

Mi5ter E
31-07-2007, 07:17 PM
well said

DoodleBug
31-07-2007, 07:25 PM
Woo hoo, straight shooting there.

I was amazed the other day watching some documentary or other when a group of immigrant women were having their community centre shut down and were moaning to high hell about. Not one of them would entertain the thought of going back to whichever hell hole they came from, they did however **** and moan about the treatment here, I mean how will they ever survive having no community centre? Heaven forbid, what a f*cking travesty. They could always leave to be shot by whatever evil rules the roost at home. People soon forget how bad life was.

Talking about wanting your cake and eating it. I couldnt image moving to Iran and demanding that christianity be taught to my (hypothetical) kids and that Islamic studies should be stopped.

I've said it before, and I dare say I'll say it again, this whole muslim v christian problem is going to get a whole lot worse before it gets better.

I dare say Australia has just upset an orchards worth of apple carts :(

STEALTH52
31-07-2007, 07:38 PM
Well said!

All our Goverment needs to do is grow a pair of ******** & stop letting them in, in the first place

MICKTLS
31-07-2007, 07:49 PM
35 yrs ago my brother and his family left this country to emigrate to Austrailia , i have seen him twice since then and each time i have he has told me that it was the best thing that he ever did , and going by the latest developments i could not blame him at all

Pocket Rocket
31-07-2007, 09:26 PM
I don't blame him for moving to aussie land Mick if i could move tomorrow i would but marriage isn't the answer hehe, best country in the world by a long shot. Everyones soo easy going & the whole atmosphere don't get any trouble with anyone like you do over here on a weekend. Everyones welcome & no aggro which is nice & it's lovely weather :clap

badco
31-07-2007, 09:27 PM
oh fxxkin beautifull.. no prizes for guessin where there gonna go .

Comfortably Numb
02-08-2007, 05:12 PM
:( Just makes me want to move there even more now

SDM
02-08-2007, 05:33 PM
Graeme (Whippet) is filling out the paperwork with the Australian Immigration people at the moment, so in 14 months he could be on his way to Australia.

Thats if his bottle holds out.......:laugh1

bayonet
02-08-2007, 09:04 PM
Quote: "IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT.


Haha, I can just see this Brendan Nelson, walking naked in the hot sun in nothing but a loin cloth lobbing his boomerang at his lunch as it legs it away from him.

fall off
03-08-2007, 11:32 AM
it's a shame that we have not got politicians with the same balls , we might not be in the state we are now , I'm not a racist , just a realist .

Lateshift
03-08-2007, 11:44 AM
Ah but the main difference here is that Australia (or so i believe) isnt bound by the European court of Human rights ;)

I dont doubt that there are plenty of politicians in positions of power at the moment that would love to be able to stand up and shout something like that, however they get paid well and have a lifestyle that most wouldnt jeopardise either ;)

Half of the problem is also patriotism, the UK is no longer held together by that simple concept unless we are talking about football or rugby these days :D

You can blow all this immigration out of the argument really because it invariably comes down to the one thing that has been responsible for nearly all wars in the last 1000 years at least.


Religion ;)


There probably isnt many people on here that dont complain about Immigrants, however i would hasten to add that Illegal immigration is the problem and not the legal migration of people from one Nation to another (lets face it most of us wouldnt mind moving to another warmer country :D ).

But Religions and the varying cultures that are bound to them are what causes the problems in the first place.


I personnally couldnt care less, but i do subscribe to the sentiments of the Aussies,

you come here, you respect us for who we are and how we live, you dont try to force a new way of life or religion on to us by pleading how down trodden you are as a minority and you pay your way in life like the rest of us :)

DoGbOt
03-08-2007, 12:04 PM
As Faithless says: Religion IS A weapon of mass destruction!

badco
03-08-2007, 08:22 PM
Ah but the main difference here is that Australia (or so i believe) isnt bound by the European court of Human rights ;)


Half of the problem is also patriotism, the UK is no longer held together by that simple concept unless we are talking about football or rugby these days

Patriotism dont be silly, they banned that years ago when did u last try to fly the flag :laugh1:laugh1:laugh1

Lateshift
03-08-2007, 08:58 PM
every day as it goes, i have to wear it on my sleeve :D :D

and the people i have to speak to, well if they dont like it they came to the wrong office :D

2E
03-08-2007, 09:35 PM
Now, if only our prime minister could get a bit more like that!!!:clap

DoodleBug
04-08-2007, 08:20 AM
Err, no. We'd all be Scottish!