Seton Tuning - Colchester

[harriebird]

woowwwww what a brilliant evening i've just had.

i rang Phil Seton this afternoon to book my race bike in for a go on the dyno, expecting to wait a while as i know he is a busy guy. he came and picked me and bike up within an hour. i was stunned. (a friend of mine had told him to expect a phone call from me so he knew about me and my bike but i wasnt expecting quite such lightning service)

i had a few issues with how the bike was running, and he found a loose exhaust header pipe bolt within seconds - rather embarrassing for me, but as he said, at least he found it. this was giving a rather bad rattle (worse than usual before you start Mr Polden :grin2) and also not helping with the misfire issues i was having.

we (me, parkys, general pit helpers) had suspected the bike was running lean right from the beginning of the season. but neither of us (me or phil) were expecting just how lean. very very very. indeed.

anyway. result is 46bhp on a Dynapro dyno. I now know where my peak power is etc which is great to know. I have also confirmed that i have a flat spot.

The bike is going back in after my race at Donington when he will fiddle with the standard needles and jets as it's very possible and hghly likely he will get a better result from these than with a Dynojet kit.

i am happy as a very happy thing indeed and can't thank him enough. i had 3 cups of tea and a good old natter with his girlfriend Charlie about H100s and being short in the leg department.

A dyno run costs £25, very very thorough indeed and a really helpful bloke. He's based near the level crossing on East Hill in Colchester. I can't speak highly enough of him. So give him a call if you need anything tweaking.

a big big big thank you indeed Phil xxx

[v8-powered]

I've heard a few good recommendations for Phil Seton now....

[DoodleBug]

How about a phone number.

Details, details, come on Harrie!

[v8-powered]

http://www.seton-tuning.co.uk/

[DoodleBug]

I said phone number ffs ;)

Cheers :)

[Lateshift]

Phil Seton is well known for tuning bikes (but so are his prices for the big tunes ;) ) also its one of them less known facts that the level of tune he provides tends to mean that on the higher tuned bikes they need frequent visits for refreshes, thats not to say that he isnt a top notch tuner, you only have to look at the bikes he runs in Supersport 600 to see that :)

I thought you had the fueling sorted on this already Harrie?, i remember before the season started that you said you were getting a K&N put on and assumed that you had the jetting sorted to match it at the time?

Older 'carb' bikes rarely get away with fitting race cans and free flow filters without the bikes running very lean, the popping and banging you get on the overrun sounds cool but is a quick way to ruin the valves etc.

Still a quick tweak of the jets and he should have that running nice :)

[v8-powered]

I said phone number ffs ;)

Cheers :)

Click on the bloody link then!!!!!.....;)

11 Moorside Business Centre
Colchester
Essex
CO1 2TJ

PHONE 01206 866400
EMAIL phil(at)remove-this.seton-tuning.co.uk (javascript:linkTo_UnCryptMailto('nbjmup;qijmAtfup o.uvojoh/dp/vl');)

[harriebird]

I thought you had the fueling sorted on this already Harrie?, i remember before the season started that you said you were getting a K&N put on and assumed that you had the jetting sorted to match it at the time?


no i didnt unfortunately, parkys did as best they could without a trip to the dyno to see. they put a Ducati Performance air filter one on in the end as Paul had one lying around so saved me a few quid on a K&N.

things had just been too busy at home and work and stuff to sort out getting my bike further down the A12 for a dyno read, i only found out that Phil Seton had a dyno a few weeks ago and had been hoping to get it into him after Assen. but it wasnt to be. probably not very racer of me but there were just too many other things to worry about.

actually i hate the popping on the over run it gives me a shock!

[Lateshift]

Have you got a 'baseline' figure at all for what the M600 is supposed to have 'at the wheel' with race cans and free flow filter at all?

Jetting on some bikes can make quite a big difference in torque (not massive) and power delivery.

Just rejetting my ZX9R managed to squeeze back another 4hp (although it was a full race system admittedly) but the way it revved up after it was done made the bike feel like a complete animal (and got rid of the flat spot it had too, which makes a massive difference :) ).

[harriebird]

i was expecting nearer 49-50 but it a dynapro reads truer/lower apparently. the reason for getting it on the dyno was to check out the rattling (done before we even started), check how it was running with teh race can on (done), confirm suspicions it was running lean (done) and assess whether a Dynojet kit was worth it or not (done).

needless to say i am a happy bunny and cant wait to get the bike dropped off after Donington :grin2

[becky]

well mine wont start - stupid ducatis

[harriebird]

becky are you getting any ignition/neutral lights etc coming on, ie are the electrics working?

[becky]

the lights work, but no ones home. the electric start wont work!

[harriebird]

:( oh right, i know what it means if there's no electrics at all but i'm not much help otherwise!

[Lateshift]

kill switch :D ;) ??

[bayonet]

Fuse on the starter solenoid? Sticky sidestand switch? Sticky clutch switch if it's one of those bikes that won't start unless the clutch is pulled in?

[DoodleBug]

Just been and looked at the bike. Has sparx but no neutral light. Sidestand killswitch is working correctly. All the major wiring seems fine. Starter button produces nothing at all, dosnt even engage the starter. Tried bump starting it (not ideal with concussion) but no use, just getting a lung full of petrol fuems every time the clutch is popped. Main fuse, infact all the fuses are fine.

ECU?

[rembrandt]

may seem stupid but whats the battery condition like , it may be charged but not enough to start? and as mick said kill switch has anything been taken off yet in prep for racing??

[DoodleBug]

Bike was running earlier and cut out, it could be a faulty kill switch, should have taken it apart, muppet, I did mean to. Parkies are having it saturday morning to play with anyway. All thats been done to the bike so far is exhausts and rear sets.

[harriebird]

ask on www.ducatisti.co.uk (http://www.ducatisti.co.uk), i will have a word with graeme tonight and see if he has any suggestions.

oh and

:offtopic:

sorry ive wanted to wave that one for ages!

[becky]

ask on www.ducatisti.co.uk (http://www.ducatisti.co.uk), i will have a word with graeme tonight and see if he has any suggestions.

oh and

:offtopic:

sorry ive wanted to wave that one for ages!

We're still talking bout a ducati monster, JUST not your one :grin2

[Lateshift]

Do you use the kill switch to turn the bike off at all Becky??

[DoodleBug]

Shane has taken the kill switch apart and says that there is no problem there :(

This list I was making for my next bike just got one manufacturer smaller.

[Perilous]

Know bugger all about Ducatis ( other than my mate's 916s always used to break down every time we went abroad.:rolleyes:) but there isn't a seperate smaller earth lead than runs to the battery on those is there? That often gets a break in it on our bikes and is easily missed.

I'd imagine you've already checked the conector box where the wires from the kill switch go into the main loom (near the clocks usually)?

[harriebird]

We're still talking bout a ducati monster, JUST not your one :grin2

yes but are we still talking about Seton Tuning? no :p

[Webby]

11 moorside?

Right next door to my bestie m8

Best I give him a call.

40 odd bhp? I thought bog standard for that motor was more?

Less than my old pink "posties bike"

[harriebird]

i've now got 48.6bhp, up from 46.2bhp before :jumping2

an extra 3bhp between 7 and 8k, and it takes one second less to get from 0-10k revs. sadly this doesn't equal one second per gear change but i'm sure it has helped my lap time at snetterton (along with some great coaching yesterday!), as i had a brilliant day yesterday even if it was a bit damp first thing and freezing cold ALL day :eek:

i popped in last night on the way home to tell him all about it, he almost scraped me off the ceiling at one point i was buzzing so much :skip

yep webby, 11 moorside, mind yer van down the tunnel though :grin2

he reckons there is still a lot of work that could be done to get it even better, but £££ for bhp it's not really worth it for me at the mo. can't recommend him enough :)

[troutslayer]

i would recommend phil seton to anyone!

ps. i went on the dyno on saturday, first time since switching the ecu. Graph was IDENTICAL to the run back in january

[v8-powered]

Just out of interest, what kind of dyno does he have? Fuchs, Dynojet etc?

[harriebird]

Dynapro darling :grin2

[Lateshift]

Phil has too much involvement with the riders he looks after in Bemsee not to run a Dynapro, after all that is the standard dyno for competition so it makes sense to use the one that gets employed at club level :)

The Fuchs is an accurate dyno though :)


Harrie what was his hourly rate up there???


My R1 needs jetting and the earliest i am able to get it into HM Racing in Orpington (its only 10 minutes from where i work) is second week in September, i will likely see Phil Seton up at Mallory this weekend and i am wondering how much he is likely to charge for sorting the fueling out on my bike (HM Racing is around £180 :eek: ) :D

[harriebird]

between £40 and £45 i think. dyno run is £25 :grin2 i paid about £150 for all the work on mine, but a lot of that was because some of the adjuster screws had corroded. plus he wasnt quite as familiar with the workings of a monster as he is with the guts of a 2006 R6!

he dyno'd mine within an hour of me ringing (but i live 10 minutes away) and could fit me in within a week for work. ring up quick becuase i think charlie his gf said they had about a month's worth of work booked already...

tell him katherine with the monster said hello :grin2

[troutslayer]

who's katherine??

;)

[Lateshift]

between £40 and £45 i think. dyno run is £25 :grin2 i paid about £150 for all the work on mine, but a lot of that was because some of the adjuster screws had corroded. plus he wasnt quite as familiar with the workings of a monster as he is with the guts of a 2006 R6!

he dyno'd mine within an hour of me ringing (but i live 10 minutes away) and could fit me in within a week for work. ring up quick becuase i think charlie his gf said they had about a month's worth of work booked already...

tell him katherine with the monster said hello :grin2

Cheers for that, i think HM racing were around £45 but they wanted £45 for the dyno run to check the fueling alone and that is without them even contemplating doing anything with it.

I will have a nip round to see him when i go up to Mallory at the weekend :)

[harriebird]

who's katherine??

;)

sadly it's her name on the credit card so i have to use that one :grin2

but i will be going back to my original surname before too long so all will become clear!

[Comfortably Numb]

worked around the corner from him @ GS contracts for 2 years and I never knew he was there d'oh :headshoot Will he do a good deal on yoshi can and set up for gixxer750 - I can feel my CC burning in my pocket?

[v8-powered]

Dynapro darling :grin2

Thank you sweetness....

Only reason for asking is that once I have my cans repacked I want to get my bike ran up again but don't want to go all the way to Kilburn just for the dyno run.
I've heard that figures between dyno's can vary significantly, so would not give me a good representation of before and after.