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This post is in response to a few comments made by Mark, one of the {EB} moderators, which I think requires my input. All current & new users, please read and take note. If you do not agree, please do not use the forum.
I think some people on this forum need to grow up. I have read some of the things the younger people of the forum write and some of it is a joke.
The only time I mention my racing is to bring some people back down a little and to show I am doing something and can prove it not just telling stories.
Spider. I was not saying your bike is {EB}y i said it was cheap. You do mention a lot about how fast it is and you beat this and the other and some of it sounds like kids in a playground. My srx is geared for acceleration and with low tourque would be much faster off the line than yours. But that is not the point. I bought a 400 single so that I could go to work and save on petrol and have a realiable bike that would last the time. I have a race bike to go fast on.
Simon. I have noticed you say you are a really good rider and ride all kind of bikes. how old are you? I was lead to believe you are about 16? Is this correct? This means that you shouldn't be riding on the road racing a CB500 and in my opionion is a bit silly. The stories you tell seem far fetched and not very mature. Street racing is silly and if you want to race why not get on the track? This site does not want to be looked down upon because the users condone illegal activities and is overrun by general chit chat.
Jamie. I know we have our mesing about but it had been getting out of hand a little and we have tried to pack in. the last few days we have been doing ok.
I try not to delete all posts about these things and do bite back and have my say. I try not to slag people off too much but do give my opinion as everyone does on a forum.
If I deleted all posts not on topic of slagging people off then there would be very few posts and no-one would come on. I dont want to see peole leave the site or gett banned.
I know you dont listen to me but Dan has put me in charge for a reason. He is a very busy man and has left me with a responsability. We do not need anymore mods and I dont know what the deal is about. It is a job. Not for abusing.
Thank you for that Mark. I agree 100% with everything you have said.
I set this site up as a project... simply to build a site that users will find useful and that grows into something nice and popular, which it has. I pay for everything... I have it hosted, pay for the domain renewals.. everything, all because I like to have projects like these on the go. But I feel at the moment that certain people are just taking the ****, and trying to disrupt things in here.
I want nothing from this site or its users, but I'll say this now, any user, no matter how long they have been a member, who continually posts off-topic and generally doesnt follow the rules of the forum will get banned. I would rather have fewer quality threads than piles of off-topic crap. Im not aiming this at any users in particular - this is for everyone.
It all stops now! Take it in any way you want, if you dont like it then dont log onto the site.
Just in case it isnt clear, general chat that is not related to the forum you are in, goes in the Romford Market forum. Once = warning, twice = ban.
No more posts simply saying LMAO, LOL, I AGREE... etc. They are pointless and do not contain anything useful for any other member. Do it once, you will be warned. Do it again, you will be banned.
No harsh swearing. I understand we have a few younger members, but adult use of certain swear words are perfectly acceptable. If any moderator considers your use of swearing as offencive, you will be warned and then banned.
NO abuse of any other member is permitted. There are no warnings for this, you will instantly have your account revoked. PM a moderator and direct your thoughts to them so it can be dealt with. Abuse does not mean small digs, considered as a laugh, but know when to stop.
We cannot condone or be seen to be condoning any illegal activities. Both myself and Mark are trying to build this site into something that its members can benefit from; discounted clothing, track days, accessories, training etc. and to do so the reputation of the site has to remain high. You all know that Essex Police are behind this site 100%, so why you feel you have to be so thoughtless as to post about things like illegal street racing, i'll never know. But again, this stops now.
This forum is here for its members, as a place to give or receive technical assisstance and to meet others with simelar interests. If you are not interested in either of those then you shouldnt be here.
Simon
09-12-2003, 09:00 PM
im sorry guys i didnt realise this all ment so much to you
it will stop from me from now on.
Simon
09-12-2003, 09:04 PM
i really like this forum and i really like the people on it
if ive upset or offended ANYONE at all then im sorry!!
i really appreciate wot mark and dan do
you guys do a GREAT job of taking care of the forum
im sorry that it has had to come to this.....
Thanks
It did affect me and I took some comments to Heart. I think it got a bit out of hand. As long as you understand we will all get on fine. :wink:
Simon
09-12-2003, 09:28 PM
i fully understand and im sorry tark.....
i shouldnt have tried to rip **** out of you all the time
Spider
09-12-2003, 10:06 PM
right so people posting about there day or what they have done on there bikes recently you dont like my post about the racing well im sorry but i fail to see how that brings down the site u never said you support it we never asked fro your support! all me and simon did is made up a post of what we did! that day! i feel the only reason you 2 got upset over it was because of the name! well i didnt see any of you people complaining when we were all talking about and helping members out on how to pull a wheelie and mentioninig times when people have done things! which if i remember correctly pulling a wheelie is illegal! but nothing is said about that yet as soon as i mention racing you all get in a huff! yes me and simon did race but the people commiting the crimes were me and him! we thought it would be an interesting post! for regular members to read! like wise if some other members do something that we might consider interesting but at no point did we mention the envolvement! of essexbikers in our racing that was merly between the parties envolved! and you moan about off topic ness well ive seen you all do it encluding the mods and admins! and you all slag eachother off! none of us mean it! its in the light of humour! its our nature! and tark! as for your bike i dont really care about ur srx the only reason i commented on it was because! it was the only thing i had to get you back on! after your comments! of my bike being cheap!, and yes we all take the **** out of you being able to do what most of us can only dream about ! maybe thats because we are jelous of your abilities and once again it is human nature to be jelous of someone elses abilitys that we cannot beat or match! and yes i do brag about my bike alot! thats because im proud of my bike and proud to be a biker i am also proud to be a member of this website! so proud infact i ruined my £150 helmet by putting a big ESSEXBIKERS.CO.UK sticker accross the back in attempts for new members! i like to brag about things i do on my bike to show superiority! over the people i beat etc! but that doesnt mean im acting childish it just means im proud as you brag about your racing! well i cant affford to do nor do i have the skill to race therefore i get my kicks in other areas! i agree on the whole with what your saying but you could have put it a lot better! than you did and i do take offence to some of your opinions! but it is my opinion that every one has there own! it is only the fact that you are alowed to judge morally!
now if you want to ban me for putting my voice out there then do so! but i am making my stand here! all im sayng about your agrument is that it is very hypercritcal as you are all guilty of the crimes!
Goodnight!
Simon
10-12-2003, 08:32 AM
wow nick thats a bit of an essay aint it?
Spider
10-12-2003, 08:39 AM
yep but it needed to be said
your agrument is that it is very hypercritcal as you are all guilty of the crimes!
I! purposly! didnt! mention! any! names! as! most! members! are! guilty! of! at least! one! item! we! mentioned! the! point!! is that! it all! stops! here! ok!
Spider - I dont want to see anyone leave the site, especially members like you who have been here from the start virtually. The discussion on wheelies was perfectly acceptable. no one was encouraging wheelieing in the street, or on the road. You post was over the top, about doing stupid, dangerous speeds that could have got someone hurt. If you cant see the difference in those 2 threads, then I hope that clears it up.
Spider
10-12-2003, 07:15 PM
yes i know but we wernt encouraging! it! we were just letting everyone know what we done! and yes there were stupid manouvers at stupid speeds! but that was us! we wernt suggesting trying them etc! we were just broadcastng the news on what we had been up 2!
wowzer
11-12-2003, 01:49 AM
Stop with the moaning u biatches! oh my, ok it was a little funny earlier when u had a cussin match going on, but must addmit some of that stuff was a bit harsh from all angles,n a bit bellow the belt with others.
Spider wheelies r good in that u didnt mention u were doing it on the roads=thats illigal. :naughty:
could be in a field or private property=thats cool. 8)
Street racing=well it says it in the title=ya get busted then prob butt f****d in the cell.
:naughty: :shock: :cry:
U say u R proud of ya BIKE, how it is wot it can do and wot u can do with it=GOOD goodluck to ya n ya bike,dont worry wot others think about it your not asking them to have it or ride it n remember everyone starts somewhere.always look ahead(n behind for life saver)think about wot ya want in life n go for it! DUCATI916 any good :D (one day,just an aim)
Tark,dunno how u really started out wether it was a little help from a friend or summin or just hard grafting,either way ya there now n still need the support i believe,some of ous havent had the means to do wot u do but dont put any of us down as u may shatter some dreams.
appart from that u do get some stick ive noticed now n then hehe(joking)
for being mod but that dont bother me.stay on track n when i got the $ i'll be looking for u to get me in to the racing. (they say u crash n fall off,oh well shiii happens.wait till im on the track ill just go full throttle like a computer game n prob write myself off!! like i said shiii happens.) :D
When i was younger my mum used to say,"TREAT OTHERS HOW U WANNA BE TREATED!!".
basically for all who dont understand,if ya dis-respect people then dont be surprised when they do the same to u, where as if ya show a little respect ya got more chance of getting some back.
:D "Bikers r suppose to help Bikers!" :D
Just thought i'd say THANX to Dan for the site :clap: GOOD MAN :clap:
Spider
11-12-2003, 06:05 AM
i wernt bitching i was just putting my point across every story has two-sides! dan and tark put there side out i put mine ! if u dont like it then deal with it! 8)
Simon
11-12-2003, 08:35 AM
i'll be looking for u to get me in to the racing. (they say u crash n fall off,oh well shiii happens.wait till im on the track ill just go full throttle like a computer game n prob write myself off!! like i said shiii happens.) :D
sorry to change the tone on wot was just said but......
LOL WOWZER!!!!!!
Well I have had enough of the topic. The only bit i will reply to is about the racing. I will be ahppy to help you get into racing and what you have to do to start. I started off my own back with some saved money and just bought a bike and the gear. then went from there. I only need help if I am to get what people say "my full potential" as I cant compete against some of the others with loads of £££££.
Simon
11-12-2003, 11:52 AM
if you dont get sponsers and {EB} you wont eva reach your full potential.....
im behind ya tark......
Spider
11-12-2003, 02:35 PM
yeah im gonna! get a 250 built up! and race prep it using darrens guide on his website and then ill look into the official stuff as im a bit of a suicide racer on the roads might as well put my skills to use!
Simon
11-12-2003, 03:10 PM
wot skills nick :lol:
Spider
11-12-2003, 04:58 PM
dotn get me started on that and back on topic do i need a special liscense to do racing? sorry if all this has been asked befroe as i dont pay attention to stuff that aint relative to me at the time!
Yes. You will be able to get an Intermediate Novice licence as you have a full bike licence. You will still have to wear a Bib for the first season though! :lol: we have all been there!
wowzer
11-12-2003, 10:18 PM
looks sort of like we will all be on track then one day!!
Tark wot type of bike did u start with?
wo sort of money would it take to get u up n running ?
and on track can i drive like a c? (joke)
I jumped straight onto a 600 but i wouldn't recommend it as its the hardest competition! :x
It can cost from about £3K a season to about £300K
depends on how competative you want to be
If you ride like a C then you might get black flagged of something, but you can pretty much ride how you like.
wowzer
11-12-2003, 10:30 PM
was joiking about the riding bit.
oh i get wot ya saying about the class of engine size n stuff,
wot would u say was a good one to start on then 250 or 400 summin like that!
Doninha Princesa
12-12-2003, 04:01 PM
Woah, Well you prob didnt notice but I havent been on much recently, net probs at home (well lack off net at home! lol) but I get on wen im at m8s or other members places :wink: and I only just saw this topic.
I had noticed that the messin bout had got a bit harsh recently.
but i think Dan and Tark deserve the uttmost respect from all members for the hard work they do to keep this forum running, without charging members for joining or anything like that.
I say, good on ya guys for standing up for your site. I'm behind ya all the way. :) :clap:
I say, good on ya guys for standing up for your site. I'm behind ya all the way
shucks, thanks girl :wink:
rossi_46
18-12-2003, 02:58 AM
i have just one question, why was the need raised to get the police backing
was joiking about the riding bit.
oh i get wot ya saying about the class of engine size n stuff,
wot would u say was a good one to start on then 250 or 400 summin like that!
The 250 and 400 class is pretty competative but not as much as the 600's.
The best to start on would be something like the cb500 cup or hornet cup as these are not as highly competative and you can do well on a standard bike.
billyam998
21-12-2003, 06:16 PM
Hello there I have just managed to sit at my p.c and do more than check my mails and reply to them for the first time in ages . I check out my favorite site and what do I find when I log in?
In the box where it says read all posts since last vist-1340 or something stupid like that . when I try to read them and see if there is anything of merit most of it is trash . I'm glad I'm not the moderator or not very much would be on here at all.
What started out as a friendly project has taken off and is probably going in a direction no one ever envisiged .
Would it be possible to formulate a set of objectives and try to stick to them ?
Then that way people would know what they are sgining up to , I didn't join to read about peoples supereority or try to make myself look good .
What i did want is to meet like minded people and pool information .
Immature people posting dross-moderators included should bear this in mind .
At present I do not forsee myself visiting much more due to the way things seem to be going .
I hope that things will change as I do not think I am alone in that view.
So to finish-could we ALL try to remain objective and if you want a chat with someone use chat , mail or , messenger .
Keep up the hard work
:D
The Yeti
22-12-2003, 12:23 AM
yeah im gonna! get a 250 built up! and race prep it using darrens guide on his website and then ill look into the official stuff
I reckon you'd better look into the "official stuff" BEFORE!!! you start building a race bike......
as im a bit of a suicide racer on the roads might as well put my skills to use!
If that's you attitude, I don't think you should be on a race track, I certainly wouldn't want to be on a track at the same time......
Go do a track day first if you think you're that fast!!!
You might be in for a bit of a shock......
As for the guys that run this site, good job guys :D
I'm a moderator on another site and I think I've got it easy compared to you......
Spider
22-12-2003, 02:26 AM
oooh some people are haveing bad days bitchin at everyone and yeti as for my comments im sorry if u dont like them, as for me building a 250 racer i dont need to check anything i can build it the worry about the regulations etc later as if i do decide to race it will be for an enjoyment hobbie not career! and as for my comment on the way i ride on the roads! id liek to point out if you ask any members who have seen me or even been pillion on my bike when i ride they will tell you that i am actually a good and safe rider! my comment there was ment in the fashion of i like to ride fast only in appropriate places you wont see me doing 90 in a populated area ive im going to speed and dont critisize me for it becuase every biker or cage driver speeds! but if i am doing so i will do it at the right place and time! i do not like your notion for me to stay off the track in my view for me to go on a track would be a great learning experiance! and i will be trying a few trackdays! then if i enjoy them then maybe ill build my 250 to regulation! and then race it!
Spider
22-12-2003, 02:36 AM
oh and billy yam! you say you will not be visiting any more due to crap being posted well all i can say is good riddons m8 because if you expect every single post on a forum to obtain 100% percent relivent material and support then u obviously dont know what a forum is its a message board! for people to leave and post messages to eachother and this one happens to be a bikers message board there fore 70% of the content is about bikes or around the subject off but also essexbikers forum is also a social point where people from all over come to meet and TALK and CHAT this is an informal website or i like to think so i seriously dont think it would be as popular as it is if everything was FORMAL! and on topic 100% of the time! if you want that then go to a microsoft support forum! biking is ment to be fun, and this website is ment for bringing bikers together to talk about there experiances and problems! not for them to get crucified over posting an informal message to a friend because it wasnt on topic
i have made a lot of friends through this site i have met a few members! i have even met and become very close friends with some one i went to school with years ago!, i have also found lots of help with problems regarding bikes etc! and also alot of moral support when things go wrong like when i had a crash! what ur now thinking is typical teenager new rider no experiance probablly caused the accident etc etc well belive what ya like m8 but you and a few other members bitching about the "younger" members well your just pathetic! you should be showing us how life is sposed to be lived not moaning about it! if your not happy with the stuff we post in this forum then all i can say to you is fine your choice good bye!
I am trying to Clamp down on Bum posts but you cant get rid of all chat.
In the technical forum most of the info is good and stuff that isn't gets deleted.
people can use chat of messenger if they want to have a chat with just one or two people that are online at the time.
We have the Romford Market so that people can join in and chat about what they want and everyone can have there say.
But seeing as you wont be logging in for a while then I wont waste my time on you.
Spider
22-12-2003, 11:20 AM
thankyou tark!
billyam998
22-12-2003, 03:50 PM
OOPs it looks like I touched a raw nerve . What you guys didn't see is you did just what I expected you to . -Go in off at the deepend you know red mist comes down and that is it . Off the thead and getting all personal . I dont care wether you are 6 or 60 , ride a harley(and tow a caravan behind it) we all ride things with two wheels and an engine .
You havn't taken a minute to think about what I said and took it far too seriously , what you didn't see was that I was actually bothered to reply .
Look at how many had read the thread and count how many had replied .
I was only trying to be objective . I realise things must go off thread , and this is how we get to know each other . I wasn't saying we should put a stop to it maybe - I don't know turn it down a little .
Once again I didn't mean to offend anyone TARK included .
Please read the comment at the end of my last post .
Bye for now
Bill
Firstly, my apoligies for not being on here for the past few days, I have quite bad flu, and my monitor just seems to make my head want to explode even more.
I feel like im constantly apoligising to people on behalf of other forum members, and its begnining to get on my nerves a little.
Spider, please explain to me how you class youself as a safe rider after the illegal street racing thread you started? No doubt you'll take that the wrong way, but nothing in this thread is meant to be derogatory - im just trying to make a point. Also, please try and be civil to the likes of Yeti and Trouty - you have to realise that people like them have experience in what they talk about, and anything they post is going to be there to assist you. I really dont want to see people like that leave the forum - everyone loves racing, and the more people with racing experience on here to assist other members, the better. I'll say it again, *DO NOT* take this as me having a go, i'm trying to educate everyone, not target you. ok? :)
Lastly, billyam98; you'll see both myself and Tark have taken action to stop pointless and off topic posts - thats what this thread is all about, and going back to what Tark said above, we delete anything off topic in all forums. Romford market, Joker and HELLOO are possibly the only 3 forums where you will find non-bike-related threads, but then that's what they are there for.
However, if you feel a user is abusing a particular forum, please PM one of us.
Right, im gonna go and take some more paracetamol.... <sniff><sneeze>
Ciao! ;)
OOPs it looks like I touched a raw nerve . What you guys didn't see is you did just what I expected you to . -Go in off at the deepend you know red mist comes down and that is it . Off the thead and getting all personal . I dont care wether you are 6 or 60 , ride a harley(and tow a caravan behind it) we all ride things with two wheels and an engine .
You havn't taken a minute to think about what I said and took it far too seriously , what you didn't see was that I was actually bothered to reply .
Look at how many had read the thread and count how many had replied .
I was only trying to be objective . I realise things must go off thread , and this is how we get to know each other . I wasn't saying we should put a stop to it maybe - I don't know turn it down a little .
Once again I didn't mean to offend anyone TARK included .
Please read the comment at the end of my last post .
Bye for now
Bill
I wasn't offended by anything you have said.
What you are getting at is the reason this topic started in the first place. A few topics were getting out of hand and we decided something had to be done about it. As you said "Turn it down" is what we are trying to achieve.
We ask people over and over to stop going off topic and dont just post LOL but what can I do. You have a very thin line of where it is going too much off topic and then when it gets past there what can you do? I cant delete everything thats going off topic or ban people that use LOL etc etc. I just delete little comments and try to bring the covo back to topic when it goes off a bit.
The only thing that came close to ****ing me off was you saying "Immature people posting dross-moderators included should bear this in mind".
I thought this was a bit out of order cos of all the hard work we are putting into running this site and that what you call dross maybe people having bit of a laff and a chat. I am not a robot and you will see me replying off topic to other posts that are off topic. But as a whole you will find me one of the most mature people on this site; hence why I am a moderator.
The comment about not wasting my time was because I spend a lot of time trying to read every post and filtering out the **** that people post just to boost thier count. It didn't seem that you appreciated what we are trying to do and didn't get the point that your "objective" is what Dan and I are trying to achieve. Your comments were valid but we have been through it all before.
If you are Interested in the Problem solving and helping others with technicall difficulties then have a look in that section. You will find that there are only a few people who actually help out in there and the "Trash" posts are deleted. We need a few more members with technical knowlege.
wowzer
23-12-2003, 12:28 AM
hehe,if any of u take anything like this to heart u aint a true biker,ya meant to have a laurgh n live a little not be an old fart n moan n winge about things!!!! :lol:
(no offence to anyone!!) :lol:
kasandrich
23-12-2003, 12:40 PM
I am the head Administrator of another forum, so I speak from experience here. If the Admin's/Moderators have things to say in private to each other that should be done in a separate thread to which general members do not have access, Admins / Mods with guidance :D for others running the site as displayed above is likely to cause disharmony and can be sorted out behind closed doors.
Looks like this could end up handbags at dawn :lol: :lol: :lol:
Richard
troutslayer
23-12-2003, 01:22 PM
Can we do something about the appalling grammar on here??? :wink:
I'm looking on as the forum guru from thelondonbikers.com, i guess we're pretty similar... there are mods/managers on our forum(yeti is one) and they deal with a lot of stuff that i dont even notice, very rarely does anything come to me to sort out, if it does, its because its potentially a very 'difficult' subject. Although i'm very much a 'call a shovel a shovel' type person, i'm actually pretty good at seeing all sides of a story and being democratic.
Its not an easy job. trying to please all the people all the time??? if anyone thinks it is, you're very mistaken. There has to be some give n take. Friendly banter is one thing, personal insults are another. The line HAS to be drawn somewhere. Simple as that.
Someone asked about why get Essex Police backing the forum... we (LB) have members from the met online, we're all bikers! We also had a series of 'bike-safe' courses from the met this summer. It doesnt matter how good or experienced you are, you will learn something new. Think about it. We support they're scheme, they're happy to talk with us on a level ground. Would you rather be a member of a group where the local plod give you some support and backing (doesnt matter how much) or would you prefer essex plod to join the forums, read the stories and target you as 'pulls'?
Dan/Tark, keep with it.
Everyone else, dont suffer with tunnel vision and instead, look at the bigger picture.
All the guys here that have asked me about starting TZR racing... go do a trackday and see how fast you really are. If you can run amongst the fastest in the fast group, then come ask me! otherwise i'm just repeating the same stuff over and over and over to people who may or may not ever get on a track! Theres a couple of cheap days at brands in the trackday section.
Peace and happy karma to all!
Daz
troutslayer
23-12-2003, 01:39 PM
yeah im gonna! get a 250 built up! and race prep it using darrens guide on his website and then ill look into the official stuff as im a bit of a suicide racer on the roads might as well put my skills to use!
sorry to pick up on this spider...
heres the thing... i had about 10 years road riding experience (and a fair few years off road before that) before doing a trackday, then i did a race school, then started building the bike, then did another 2 race schools and another trackday, then started racing. Please dont make the mistake of getting 1 or 2 years of road experience and thinking you'll be able to cut it. It could be very dangerous for yourself and the others racing with you. Do a few trackdays. Then do some raceschools, then more trackdays. Then think long and hard about it... for most people, trackdays are enough of a buzz.
We support they're scheme
tut tut, poor grammar lmao ;)
Thanks for the comments trout.
Is that it all wrapped up now?
I am bored of this and there isn't much else happening on the site over Christmas.
Oh and I understand what trouty means about the experience thing but I did the opposite sorry!
I was riding a 50cc on the road and then got a 600 and started racing. I figured it was cheaper to do a race than a track day so I just went for it. I haven't been to race school and just picked it up naturally or from watching moto GP! I have had a few spills in my first season getting to know the bike and the riding styles.
But I wouldn't have ever expected to go straight onto the track and be up there with them or win. My first few races I was comming about 25-28 out of 30. So at least I was never last! LOL.
I would have also started earlier and on a smaller bike to get noticed more. 600's are very competative! Start on a specialised cup like the TZR cup CB cup or Hornet cup. This way if you do well you will be noticed and then you will be able to move onto the F600 class etc etc.
This Has all gone off topic a bit I would say!
I did ask a few pages ago for it to be split into a "start racing" topic as well but I have no Mod powers in here! :cry:
FingerZ!
25-01-2004, 07:46 PM
hello chaps
i didnt realise that things had got so bad - unfortunately i dont come on the site all that much these days which is a shame because i like to think that iw as one of the first and important members on the site. Being a mate of Dans, and i like to think a reasonably close one, i feel upset to see such goings on in the forum.
I hope that things get better!
Tim :)
Things have got much better. There isn't as much going on now but its all pretty clean.
Dans not on here much anymore either! :roll: Busy as a Bee.
Biker Dude
26-01-2004, 02:46 PM
well.......with dan not on as much that kinda makes it Tark's forum!!
All hail king Tark
Spider
26-01-2004, 04:26 PM
Just read it all ! now i know u are all waiting for me to explode! into one long rant well i cnt be assed all seems to be sorted now! (trouty grammer cnt be assed with that if u can read what im saying then whats the prob!?)
and as for picking on trouty and yeti etc i love those guys who else can give me the tecnical support i need and bill m8 soz was having a bad time then with me crash and alljust wanted to let out! want to appoligise to u all for erm me being me lol was undera bit of presure! and dan nice one bout the safe rider thing well in my defense, EVERYONE SPEEEDS just that i just happned to be trying to outspeed someone else! and i do class myself as a safe rider genrally! but every has there immature moments! but now thats all settled ROLL ON SUMMER where we gotta have a BIG MEEET!
well.......with dan not on as much that kinda makes it Tark's forum!!
All hail king Tark
:dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:
Biker Dude
26-01-2004, 07:54 PM
LOL.... Everyone knows that gingers rule the universe! *bows down*
The only place I am not a moderator of! :x
Can I just say, that as a new member, I joined to meet guy's in Essex that are Biker's. I can be foul mouthed, just ask my mate's. I am hoping to meet a few new guy's and make friend's, plus also I made need help from time to time and was hoping this Essex Bikers site could give me all that and maybe more. Anyway, think I should leave it there as i'm a new guy. Enough Said :)
Thanks for your comments. All this is sorted now, but we left the thread here for new members to take note of so we dont get into the same situation again ;)
D.
bigtaff
24-02-2006, 04:17 PM
Well, I'm back after a long break. I had forgotten all about 'Essex Bikers' until I fell over it just recently when Googling for something else. Seems like there's a new format and maybe a change in management.
I left because I said at the time that if a site such as this wanted to be taken seriously and perform a service to the community then it should not be seen to be condoning road racing etc, as well as containing a high degree of undesirable behaviour (constant slagging off etc etc). The site appeared to be populated by a clique of juvenile delinquents (or those who wished they were) and at the time I got my share off slagging off by the uneducated few, so I decided this was not the company I wanted to keep.
That was over a year ago, and it is good to see the admin and moderators finally recognising the fact and trying to do something about it.
Regrettably, until the 'rogue element' are either banned from the site, grow up or (worse) die, I can't see anything changing. Look at the reaction Dan got to the perfectly reasonable rules post at the start of this thread. (And will someone please give that guy a spell and grammar checker!).
The Admins and Mods have to be strong. Until everyone gets their act together this can't be taken as a serious 'Essex Bikers' site. It's a place where a few kiddies get together in a p***ing match with each other. The equivalent of hanging about outside the local chippy on a freezing February night trying to look cool on your araldite and gaffer taped Gilera 50.
I'll stick my head in now and again (assuming this post does not get me immediately banned) but no, this is not really the site for me or any other serious biker I know. One who rides regularly, has a serious interest in the machinery, maintains it and understands his and its capabilities. One who understands and respects the 'rules of the road' but is not averse to 'pushing the envelope' when it is safe (but maybe not legal) to do so.
And yes, I ride every day - even yesterday morning in the snow, between Chelmsford and Brentwood and back. And if I don't see the speedo into triple digits on a regular basis or get that buzz when you know you are riding well and making good progress, then I am disappointed.
I wish you well, but I think you have a lot of work to do.
Just my 2p worth.
Juvenilerider
24-02-2006, 04:24 PM
Now, I don't know who are you, but I do know this thread is 2 years old.
There isn't a single person who uses this sight now that isn't a huge bike fan.
Regrettably, until the 'rogue element' are either banned from the site, grow up or (worse) die
After making statements like that, perhaps you shouldn't come back. No one should talk like that, no matter how much you dislike someone, it isn't something that should be said.
If you were the biker you claim to be, you should know that.
DoodleBug
24-02-2006, 04:25 PM
Mate the post before this one was made in February 2004. Times change, I dont know you, but apparently you havent changed. I have been popping in here for less than a year now, and apart from a few posts made in fun I have experienced nothing which would give pay to your comments. I think the crowd here do tend to be a little younger but that is because they all appear to have been friends for a long time, and I like to think I now can count myself amongst them. The interest on here for bikes in their many forms is at times in the extreme. I am constantly learning things I never even knew I needed to know, and the meets and ride outs are always fun and at times challenging. Dip your toe in the water a bit more and you might just find you like it.
Karl.
Lateshift
24-02-2006, 04:32 PM
Well, I'm back after a long break. I had forgotten all about 'Essex Bikers' until I fell over it just recently when Googling for something else. Seems like there's a new format and maybe a change in management.
I left because I said at the time that if a site such as this wanted to be taken seriously and perform a service to the community then it should not be seen to be condoning road racing etc, as well as containing a high degree of undesirable behaviour (constant slagging off etc etc). The site appeared to be populated by a clique of juvenile delinquents (or those who wished they were) and at the time I got my share off slagging off by the uneducated few, so I decided this was not the company I wanted to keep.
That was over a year ago, and it is good to see the admin and moderators finally recognising the fact and trying to do something about it.
Regrettably, until the 'rogue element' are either banned from the site, grow up or (worse) die, I can't see anything changing. Look at the reaction Dan got to the perfectly reasonable rules post at the start of this thread. (And will someone please give that guy a spell and grammar checker!).
The Admins and Mods have to be strong. Until everyone gets their act together this can't be taken as a serious 'Essex Bikers' site. It's a place where a few kiddies get together in a p***ing match with each other. The equivalent of hanging about outside the local chippy on a freezing February night trying to look cool on your araldite and gaffer taped Gilera 50.
I'll stick my head in now and again (assuming this post does not get me immediately banned) but no, this is not really the site for me or any other serious biker I know. One who rides regularly, has a serious interest in the machinery, maintains it and understands his and its capabilities. One who understands and respects the 'rules of the road' but is not averse to 'pushing the envelope' when it is safe (but maybe not legal) to do so.
And yes, I ride every day - even yesterday morning in the snow, between Chelmsford and Brentwood and back. And if I don't see the speedo into triple digits on a regular basis or get that buzz when you know you are riding well and making good progress, then I am disappointed.
I wish you well, but I think you have a lot of work to do.
Just my 2p worth.
mate you could have saved yourself the bother with that, and taken a step back, learnt to breathe without a ventilator to help you and then actually asked yourself
"why should i bother going into a forum that i have no interest in reading, or in fact where no-one listens to a word i say?"
Total waste of a post to be honest, and i imagine a man of your age probably took a while to not only post it but to also think it up, maybe you should concentrate on watching the road ahead of you instead of worrying about whats taking over you ;)
DoodleBug
24-02-2006, 04:35 PM
Nice one, he was replying to this but has now vanished, probably getting warmed up for the massive Chelmsford to Brentwood run, what a legend.
Juvenilerider
24-02-2006, 04:36 PM
That's what I was thinking. I wish he stuck around so we could get to know him better though, he seems like a really super guy!
DoodleBug
24-02-2006, 04:37 PM
Nice of him to apologise though.
Lateshift
24-02-2006, 05:04 PM
Its an internet forum when all is said and done, its not here to serve a community other than those who enjoy bikes, quite where it fails that i am not sure, but i for one dont particularly like being spoken to in that manner so it was a case of have some back.
I actually felt disappointed that it was from someone ranting on about people hooning around etc and then it closed with comments like
but is not averse to 'pushing the envelope' when it is safe (but maybe not legal)
its still illegal which ever way you look at it :D
The one thing that is legal, is your right to register to the forum unless here to cause trouble, much the same as its legal to vote with your feet and sod off if its not for you :)
Either way its friendly around here, and there is enough experience young and old to keep the boards going without someone looking down their nose just because a few like to see the better side of 10,000rpm every now and again ;)
/edit
And he did actually re-register just to tell us that by the way ;) (personnally if i didnt like it i would have read it and moved on without having taken the trouble to feel the need to tell us this ;) )
Spider
24-02-2006, 05:26 PM
well he wants me to die eh!? nice guy i actually appoligised *i know my spelling sucks* for my outburst but being told that i should die!? hmm only one person who has the right to tell me that and he is not even a biker! well i like to think ive grown up since then! maybe only a little so im not going to go off on one not worth the effort and as the "prez" says dnt like it leave! i was reading that thinking im going to have to put up a big defense now but when i got here everyone else had done so i thank you guys!
The Guvnor
24-02-2006, 06:41 PM
:shooter What a ***** !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dont deserve any more an answer than that !
Spider
24-02-2006, 08:09 PM
:shooter What a ***** !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dont deserve any more an answer than that !
go guv ban him frm the pub ;)
The Guvnor
25-02-2006, 02:24 PM
BigTaff..............!!!!
Im guessin thats the same as a fat welshman ?
Im also guessin he realised he made himself look incredibly stupid and is not coming back to answer the replies for another two years !:clap
fall off
25-02-2006, 02:57 PM
:grin1:grin1:grin1:grin1:grin1:grin1:grin1:grin1
FACESLIDER
26-02-2006, 01:09 PM
Members Pics
Bigtaf
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v650/jreardon/onefootinthegrave_2.jpg:grin1 :grin1
I see some of the points that he is saying and your replies back up his argument. If you think he is wrong then you have the right to say so. But calling names and swearing at him is only helping to prove him right.
I have been working away at Scotland for 4 months so am no longer a mod as I didn't spend that much online. Now I am home I am spending much more time on here and hopefully helping out those who want or need my advise. Thats what I aim to do. I guess I am one of the youngest on here at only 20 but I dont slag people off, try to be helpfull and tend not to get involved with things I find inapropriate.
I feel some of the comments Taff made aren't called for. Spelling and grammer means nothing as long as people can understand what is being said and I feel that he could be a little more easy going when trying to put his veiws across.
Dont really know what I am getting at but thats my 2p worth too. LOL.
Spider
26-02-2006, 03:15 PM
lol ... is the extend of my reply
FACESLIDER
26-02-2006, 08:40 PM
Well, I'm back after a long break. I had forgotten all about 'Essex Bikers' until I fell over it just recently when Googling for something else. Seems like there's a new format and maybe a change in management.
I left because I said at the time that if a site such as this wanted to be taken seriously and perform a service to the community then it should not be seen to be condoning road racing etc, as well as containing a high degree of undesirable behaviour (constant slagging off etc etc). The site appeared to be populated by a clique of juvenile delinquents (or those who wished they were) and at the time I got my share off slagging off by the uneducated few, so I decided this was not the company I wanted to keep.
That was over a year ago, and it is good to see the admin and moderators finally recognising the fact and trying to do something about it.
Regrettably, until the 'rogue element' are either banned from the site, grow up or (worse) die, I can't see anything changing. Look at the reaction Dan got to the perfectly reasonable rules post at the start of this thread. (And will someone please give that guy a spell and grammar checker!).
The Admins and Mods have to be strong. Until everyone gets their act together this can't be taken as a serious 'Essex Bikers' site. It's a place where a few kiddies get together in a p***ing match with each other. The equivalent of hanging about outside the local chippy on a freezing February night trying to look cool on your araldite and gaffer taped Gilera 50.
I'll stick my head in now and again (assuming this post does not get me immediately banned) but no, this is not really the site for me or any other serious biker I know. One who rides regularly, has a serious interest in the machinery, maintains it and understands his and its capabilities. One who understands and respects the 'rules of the road' but is not averse to 'pushing the envelope' when it is safe (but maybe not legal) to do so.
And yes, I ride every day - even yesterday morning in the snow, between Chelmsford and Brentwood and back. And if I don't see the speedo into triple digits on a regular basis or get that buzz when you know you are riding well and making good progress, then I am disappointed.
I wish you well, but I think you have a lot of work to do.
Just my 2p worth.
I've been a member here since july last year, and i think this club is just right as it is. You say that this wasn't the company you wanted to keep, so why come back.You've been gone a year. Surley by now you have found another site to your taste,or cant you fit in anywhere else?
You also talk about the "Rogue element" having to grow up or get banned.
Complete and utter ****e. Who do you think you are? This is a public site, of course your gonna get one or two who like to sod about or make the odd silly comment.So what, big deal it's hardly the end of the world. If you see a pointless post,s lagging match etc etc or something you don't like then dont bl**dy read it. Easy, just click something you like the look of, No ones forcing you to read it. Thats what attracts me to this club,there's something for everyone the balance is just right.
There's one or two things on here that I don't like or agree with, but It doesn't bother me in the slightest. People are people. Thats life. Admittedly being 30 i do make the odd juvenile comment, and to be honest I am generally a bit juvenile, but again,s o what. I like a laugh, I do take the p*ss and constantly wind people up, Not so much on here, because I don't really know anyone but generally, thats me, but I'm not changing just because some old geezer does'nt think its appropriate, it's called a sense of humor..I've been like this all my life, and got on just fine. I've got a big house I've got a good job a nice bike few quid in my pocket, a lovely girlfriend and family and a good bunch of mates. And I've got it all being just as i am. With a great big efin grin on my face. I'm fed up with hearing people telling others to grow up,Why? I admit that sometimes people take the mick when It's really not necessary, there's a time and a place for everything, but as said before. You don't like it, don't read it.Your only a mouse click away from something else.
Also, What you said about the spelling and grammer was uncalled for,you know what it sais,so what difference does it make.I'm one of the few on here who has problem with there spelling and grammer and I don't have a checker,but i do my best as does everyone else and no one has ever had a problem with it.I think you really need to chill out a bit mate.To me your making a big deal over absolutly nothing.Surely you could find something better to do with your life.
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"The admin and mods have to be strong,untill everyone gets there acts together this can't be taken as a serious essexbikers site"
QUOTE
I really don't mean to be rude mate,but who the hell do you think you are.I don't know what you see on this site but it's something completley different to what I see.The mods do just fine,I think anyway.
as for that crap about it not being for serious bikers.We're all serious bikers on here.I ride every day without fail no matter what the weather as do a lot of others on here......Quote/one who rides regulary,has a serious interest in the machinary,maintains it and understands his and it's capabilitys/end Quote.....BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA ,You need to take a step back and have a good look at youself pal.Ever thought its you who's the odd one out,and please do stick your head in now and then,thats if you can remove it from your .................................................. ...helmet
No offense:grin2
END RANT
And Breath............All without swearing.well sort of
I'm not usually one for going off on one.I make a point of not letting anything p*** me off through a computor.Not sure if I'll get in trouble for this post,but I cant stand people who just appear,have a dig,then disapear.
It really gets my back up.....
The Guvnor
26-02-2006, 10:12 PM
Well said that man !:clap :clap
Although it was easier to just call him a ***** !!!:laugh1 :laugh1 :laugh1
RaceMeNSee
27-02-2006, 06:54 AM
Everyone's already said what i think! ile just add......Schmuck!
harriebird
27-02-2006, 07:23 AM
it's ok everyone, you can all have a think about the gorgeousness of my bike, it will restore peace and harmony as everyone will be sitting there thinking "well f**k me that's a beautiful bike" and they won't have the energy to wish hatred and death on each other and it will all be calm.
single bad point about 748? no room for cake goddammit. anyway
:offtopic:
i love this forum i have met so many lovely lovely people on here and it annoys me when people get the hump with each other. play nice and ride safe kids xxxx
A forum is like a radio station in a sense - its pretty much impossible to cater for every type of person. I think we have found a good happy medium here and I don't know about anyone else, but I have met a good deal of decent people through this forum.
Following on from Marks comment, I also do see bigtaf's point regarding some of the posts on here but you are always going to get that - especially in an Essex forum dedicated to a mostly younger-crowd sport/hobby (and thats in no way intended to disrespect Essex as I have lived here all my life... and I know older people ride bikes.. <sigh> :grin2 ) but you see what I am saying.
I'm all for freedom of speech, especially on a public forum, but i'm sorry Bigtaf you lost all my respect half way down your post. I'm not going to ban you - come back as often as you like, just dont expect a warm welcome. It's a bit like me going to your house and saying "This house will be crap until your kids go away or (worse still) ....." If i came back to your house, I wouldnt expect the kettle to go straight on and the tea cakes to be cracked out.
Either way i'm locking this thread. Toodle pip!
Dan.
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