Erm..Help??

[2E]

Hey guys need your help here once again..:grin1

As i found out the other night, the GT had a 'minor' oil leak....which i sourced to be the Oil Cooler Pipe R/H which was loose..:reading

2 minute job of tightening up the screw.. Right?? Wrong!!:shooter

My brother (sonofabiker) had a go but the screw was just spinning..

Therefore my dad decides to grab some 'plumber' tape on his way back from whereever he had to go.. and whilst he was out i carry on with installing two switches in the topbox to switch off my accessories to stop them draining the battery..:grin3

I finish installing the switches, test them quietly.. and then to make sure that i havent mucked up anything, take the bike out to the road..

Burning smell, smoke.. (oh dear not another engine).. turnt back.. and parked the bike, cut engine.. jump off bike.. check out what the hell is going on..

Turns out the minor oil leak has turnt into something a bit more drastic, with the bike violently throwing oil EVERYWHERE from the RH pipe.. ive left a trail from where i started the bike, to where i come back on the bike..

Fortunately as far as im aware (Touch wood) the engine has not seized!! as it was running when it parked up and i cut it off..:reading


We find the source of the problem to be that the right hand thread on the 'screw' of the oil cooler is non-existant... as bald as fook!

So my question to you guys is, can i replace this part, as the plumber tape didnt work due to there being no thread at all.. the oil cooler is fine, its just the right hand thread which will not hold the nut in place and not create a seal!!:shooter

[Gixxer-TeZ]

So is the thread a part of the cooler as in a tail pipe coming off the cooler or is it a detachable part ? Also is the coupler thread on the pipe ok ?

[2E]

So is the thread a part of the cooler as in a tail pipe coming off the cooler or is it a detachable part ? Also is the coupler thread on the pipe ok ?

im not sure if its detachable.. thats the point.. it comes out of the cooler and the pipe is attached by a big ass nut that tightens onto this part.. but the part is bald to the extent that there is no thread there at all.. im not sure how it got like that.. but its completely drained my bike of oil... so i cant ride until i either get a new oil cooler or sort this part out, ill get a picture tommorow..

[maxlean2]

IF its detachable you might be able to take it some where like pirtek or any hose repair place and they might have a bit to fit..
If its not take the cooler and hose in and see if there's any thing they can do..
Failing that its another cooler .

There is a hose place in Chelmsford that helped me out by making a cooler hose for the slingshot..

Worth a try..

[Gixxer-TeZ]

Best place for rads is GMX in Braintree. They have made me custom rads before for streetfighter projects and they do a lot of trike work and MX stuff aswell.

gmxradiators.co.uk

01371850729 (Dave)

Word of warning, don't waste his time or take the **** because he won't deal with you. He is very busy because he is good at his job, so take his word on what he says.

[Gixxer-TeZ]

By the way, GMX are very good for alloy rads. If it made of anything else, don't use them.







Try and get a pic of the damage on here tooey

[2E]

Heres the pictures as promised

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/essexbikers/Tooeys%20Bikes/DSCF0439.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/essexbikers/Tooeys%20Bikes/DSCF0436.jpg

[bayonet]

Well it's got a hex head on the fitting so maybe it'll come off and can be replaced. However, if the cooler can move about you might want to take it completely off ,or you could damage the other pipe whilst wrestling.

Otherwise just get a 2nd hand oil cooler from the breakers, the GT550 sold for years and years and them some more years, there must be lots about.

[Gixxer-TeZ]

Is that leaking from the nut you have undone or the one still done up ?


Does that one above it undo ?

If it does then it should be easy enough to take it off leaving the top nut attached to the rad by the looks of it then buying a new male to male adapter from somewhere like Pirtec or abbey hose. Both are down motherwell way area in grays. Just take the old male to male adapter with you to see if they can match it up. Also worth checking the nut thats slid down the pipe you have undone to make sure the thread is ok on that.

It looks naffed on that picture and if it is, I would think thats a replacement pipe required as it is like brake line pipe with pressed flanges and will need to be an assembled to suit.

The oil cooler itself is probably ok once that top nut is undone you'll see.

[2E]

Is that leaking from the nut you have undone or the one still done up ?


Does that one above it undo ?

If it does then it should be easy enough to take it off leaving the top nut attached to the rad by the looks of it then buying a new male to male adapter from somewhere like Pirtec or abbey hose. Both are down motherwell way area in grays. Just take the old male to male adapter with you to see if they can match it up. Also worth checking the nut thats slid down the pipe you have undone to make sure the thread is ok on that.

It looks naffed on that picture and if it is, I would think thats a replacement pipe required as it is like brake line pipe with pressed flanges and will need to be an assembled to suit.

The oil cooler itself is probably ok once that top nut is undone you'll see.

yes the one that is undone is the one that leaks..

[Gixxer-TeZ]

Right then I reckon it looks something like this when it's all undone.
Top right corner coupler would be something like the one you probably need. The rest is something like the pipe you have undone.
http://www.offshore-technology.com/contractor_images/gs-hydro/5-flare-fittings.jpg

Leaving a spinning nut attahced to the rad. Does that make sense ?

[Becky B]

My advice would be buy a new bike lol.....

[maxlean2]

Heres the pictures as promised

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/essexbikers/Tooeys%20Bikes/DSCF0439.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/essexbikers/Tooeys%20Bikes/DSCF0436.jpg


BEWARNED, Alot of oil coolers and other oil type stuff has a moulded nut like that so you can tighten the other fitting up with out twisting the rad out of shape..

If it is one of those and you try to undo it you could just rip the bottom out of the cooler.. :suprised1

[MICKTLS]

Toeey if memory serves me correct the nut that is still on the cooler will not undo as it is there just to help tighten the other nut if the thread has completely stripped you will need anoyher oil cooler im sorry to say

[bayonet]

Toeey, have you ever refused to buy lucky heather from an old crone? Was she muttering something and pointing at you as you walked away?

[2E]

well i managed to find a weee bit of thread, but upon tightening a bit of thread come off the worn nut, so i've sourced another oil cooler for 20 quid plus 3 quid postage off old fleabay..

Not to bad really, just asked the usual questions of check the threads, include pipes.. etc etc etc.

[2E]

ok ok, dont all jump on me at once here, as i know the world of 'bodging' is something you shouldnt mess with and all that jazz..

BUT...

If i REALLY need to use my bike (which if my oil cooler doesen't arrive by saturday i might have too:shooter) can i bodge the pipe into place with the aid of tape (duct tape/clothtape/somesortoftape) or does the oil cooler pipe heat up and thus burn the tape off, im thinking of moving the nut up to where its supposed to be, thus creating a 'seal' and then wrapping tape below it to stop it moving down, and wrapping around the nut to stop it moving period..

This isnt my permanent fix, but what with the posties going on strike left right and centre and our good old polish postie who cant read numbers.. (we keep getting post for 78, we are 72..) and what not if it comes to it, can i do it???

Obviously 'I wouldnt recommend it tooey blah blah blah..' is there a megaaaly serious risk or is it ok for a short trip..?:grin2


Dont flame me all at once please...:grin2

[falcophil]

can you ride a speed way bike?
if so it should be fine, backend over taking the front on corners, and no brakes, is very similar to oil all over your back tyre.
if you can,t then i would leave it alone!!

[DoGbOt]

Tooey this is a mechanical machine that you are talking about!! it is well an truly capable of killing you and others around you, what you have just asked is basically......

"If i put 5 layers of ductape over the front apperture of a 9mm hangun & point it at my head & pull the trigger i wont get shot will i???"

this is not some asda's own brand torch that tape can fix!! no amount of tape will solve your problem here, the cooler is getting oil pumped throught it to cool it, all you are going to do at a great rate of knots is pump oil all over the floor for some poor Ba*stard to find behind you plus you WILL Cease your engine as all that lovely slipery lubricating oil is now on the floor not lubricating your engine......:shooter

I have to admit i admire the brass balls for asking!!!

If you get all the oil away from the areas you may get a seal with some chemical metal but this i DO NOT advise as it'l probably leak under pressure..... & if it's a short trip anyway get a F***ing TAXI!!!!! Or A BUS!!

[jim7]

You dont wear a white jump-suit and open face lid do you?:laugh1
Dont do it evil!

[2E]

well as long as the new cooler is here by saturday im ok.....:grin1 i fort id ask.. my dad was willing to do it but i wasnt sure if the tape would burn off... or it would work for a little while... etc etc etc..

Bus... take a BUS???


HOW VERRRYYY DARE YOU!!!!

This is not EssexBussers.co.uk you know... take a bus... honestly..

id rather walk it.




oooh as a second question... how do you get oil off of your tyres??:grin2

[maxlean2]

oooh as a second question... how do you get oil off of your tyres??:grin2


If its not been on there to long a good degreaser should get it off..
Worked on my gixer when the oil cooler hose burst at 60mph ....

If you leave it on to long it can contaminate the rubber and you'll never shift it...

Get scrubbing matey :grin2

[2E]

If its not been on there to long a good degreaser should get it off..
Worked on my gixer when the oil cooler hose burst at 60mph ....

If you leave it on to long it can contaminate the rubber and you'll never shift it...

Get scrubbing matey :grin2

hmm degreaser.. ill give it a try.. not had time to touch it when due to work unfortunately, tho i did pour water etc all over the tire in question, havent checked the damage.. pain in the ar$e tho as it was a brand new rear tire too, ill have to get as much off as i can...:shooter